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DrasticDracon on 31 January 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Pewdiepie's views on Youtube dance circles around Nintendo multiple times. Seriously. Piediepie has Thirty-four million people subscribed to his channel. Nintendo hasn't even broken a million yet. Thats more people than Nintendo have owning their consoles by multiples. Really? He can'tbe taken seriously? LOL wow, bro.

Heh, that last part of my post was meant to be a joke, but I'll take this moment to expand my thoughts:

YouTubers might be upset, but I think this new plan is actually a step forward for Nintendo, because it means they're paying attention and will probably continue to mend their policies. Although, Nintendo can rule however the hell they want. It's their IP's on the front. As for PewDiePie, he's a strange fellow but his ideas on the subject aren't total garbage. And yeah, he's also a huge celebrity, so he's entitled to the media caring about posting his own opinions.



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sc94597 on 31 January 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sc94597 said:

You didn't address my statement about efficiency though. Just because more people see an advertisement doesn't mean that said advertisement will sell more games. It is also about how effective the advertisement would be. You kind of used PC gaming as an example, but one would argue that there are no advertisers of PC gaming, so it was an industry that would've benefitted much more from a celebrity than an industry that already had advertisement (console gaming.) 


Most people don't actively choose to watch advertisements, generally they ignore them or skip through them. They watch shows, but shows serve to be advertisement for products. If peoeple are watching someones channel about a certan game and they are on the fence, that is good press. There are advertisers of PC gamers. Look up your favorite PC gamers with large followings and you'll see what I am talking about. Maximilian is becoming the biggest hype man for fighting games, to the point where Microsoft has even hired him to work on their story. Hes that much of a fan. When he hypes of games crowd of people watch if they are interested. Hype if its real on a person who has the charisma can sell it could mean possible dollars. Its not always certain, but its most definitely possible.

Nintendo is showing their age. Screwing with Youtubers is only going to piss off the younger gamers. Then again...Nintendo was never considered the "cool" console in any era, even when they ran third party in the 90's with an iron fist. This is exactly why third parties have so much animosity with Nintendo. They are a "my way or the highway" type of company.

Angry Joe's fans bought him a Wii U to do reviews and Nintendo flagged his videos almost the second he put them up. This was his response to Nintendo.

If they are watching a trailer on Nintendo's page, then they are actively choosing to watch said advertisement. And just as much as a let's play can push somebody over the fence, it can also prevent them from jumping over.  Also, can you provide specific advertisement that isn't a youtube video for PC gaming? Hence, why it benefitted so much from advertisements on youtube. 

Also a review is different from a let's play. Both can advertise a game, but only one has the intent to do (or not) do so. One is much more effective in pursuading people either way than the other. 



Redgrave on 31 January 2015
Ali_16x said:
Redgrave said:
He's only played two Nintendo games on his channel and they were both ROMs on the Project64 emulator. So basically, he's annoyed at Nintendo for not being able to make money off games he didn't buy?

Entitled Youtubers need to expire.


What the hell are you talking about? He doesn't play Nintendo games so it's not about the money. He's saying this because he's the most subscribed youtuber and he does have influence, it doesn't matter if you don't like him or not. He is standing up for the smaller gaming youtubers. It's also a disgusting thing what Nintendo is doing, if you say good things about Nintendo we will give you 100% of the ad revenue, wow.

"If you say good things about Nintendo we will give you 100% of the ad revenue, wow."

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8437345024/h53E11E9B

Don't kid yourself, it's always about money with Youtubers.



sc94597 on 31 January 2015
theprof00 said:
I asked u to think about fashion because there are a lot of similarities.
advertising in general is about selling emotion. Passion, confidence, fun, security, haute.
billions are spent getting the audience to feel an emotional connection to a product.
thats why so many ads nowadays feature "blind taste tests" with real citizens and experiences.
like games nowadays, people dont trust paid ads or reviews as much.
lets plays accomplish this because they sell an emotional experience. A bond that you and your own friends can share.
look at the wii success.
simply watching a screen woild result in a mom going "oh great more games..."
But then they see how fun it looks to play, and grandma does it and suddenly u have that advertisement.
in fashion people steal all the time. There's almost mo policing available but it has created countless styles. They pay people to wear them.
it is the fundamental idea of advertising. Exposure and emotion.
visual people will always be visual, but people buy cars to protect their family, to be reliable. Same with lets plays. People will buy games if an actual human looks like he's really enjoying it.

None of this answers my question, which asked about real sales of real games that have been released. Why aren't indie games competing with mainstream games if PewDiePew is so influential? 



sc94597 on 31 January 2015
Talal said:

sc94597 said:

None of this answers my first question though. Why haven't the Indie games succeeded as well as mainstream games if PewDiePie (and others like him) is(are) so influentual? 


Minecraft, Flappy bird, Slender, Happy Wheels and many other games became huge because of youtube. And no one is saying that youtube advertisement is better than conventional advertisement or that it works the same way everytime, by the way. Sometimes the advertisements helps a lot, sometimes it doesn't help much or at all just like all advertisements.

Minecraft, and Flappy Bird were popular before/regardless of YouTube. Slender was a free to play game. I've never heard of Happy Wheels. Looks like a browser based game? 



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MDMAlliance on 31 January 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DrasticDracon said:
Okay, I read the article and decided I half-agree with what he said.

Nonetheless, it's PewDiePie and he should never be taken seriously. So, I give Nintendo a +1 because of this.


Pewdiepie's views on Youtube dance circles around Nintendo multiple times. Seriously. Piediepie has Thirty-four million people subscribed to his channel. Nintendo hasn't even broken a million yet. Thats more people than Nintendo have owning their consoles by multiples. Really? He can'tbe taken seriously? LOL wow, bro.


I would like to point out that your point is very weak here, because number of subscribers mean very little. 

pewdiepie may have over 30m subscribers, but his videos average way less than 30m views each.  They average less than 10m each.  Many of his videos are under 5m in the view mark, and those are generally his more recent videos as well.  The majority of his videos with the most amount of views are from 1 year ago or longer. 

Also, the Playstation youtube account only has 1/10th the amount of subscribers pewdiepie has.  How much does that mean, given that Sony is pretty much leading this gen home console sales?  

What I'm saying is that pewdiepie's influence is not THAT big for companies like Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft.  He definitely could have an effect, but it's easily debateable on how much it really is.

edit: I should also point out here, to strengthen what I've been saying, is that the subscriber-to-viewer count for pewdiepie is worse than many others who have 3-5m subscribers.



S.T.A.G.E. on 31 January 2015
MDMAlliance said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Reviews are advertisements. Some publishers even give hundreds of copies away to reviwers for free because they have a bae. Indie games dont have the marketing budgets of the large AAA's. They are designed to attract the largest crowd possible in this day and age, promising a large scale spectacle.


I don't agree. Reviews are not advertisement. It would only be considered advertisement to me if the company pays the reviewer to give a good review. Otherwise, a review is just a review, a separate thing from advertisement. Advertisement is created to look at the good parts and tell you that you should buy the product. Reviews are there to weigh the pros and cons and determine whether or not you should buy the product. There's a clear distinction there. Reviews are important to the companies because they know that advertisement only is showing what the company wants to show, but reviews are coming from a third party point of view so it's easier to trust them when they say it's good or bad.


Youtubers don't get paid by companies. They are doing the same job that the other sites are doing, but they are getting paid via ad revenue. If people watch their reviews to make a decision on a game its free advertisement (As Pewdiepie said). They are getting paid by other people via ads on their page due to their popularity;however, advertisment is also propaganda, bringing or explaining a product to a person through media. The media they are using are primarily internet vlogs which are the in thing now. 

As for companies paying for good reviews, I'm sure they've found a way around the lack of professionalism pertaining to that. I've heard of them inviting reviewers to lavish parties before too because they aren't supposed to be paying them.



JWeinCom on 31 January 2015

I'm not sure where people are getting this idea that they should be able to use copyrighted content however they like. You can certainly argue that Nintendo *should* let people use their content, but the idea that it's morally wrong for Nintendo to prevent people from using their content, or try and profit from them doing so is ridiculous. Just because it's easy nowadays to upload copyrighted material doesn't mean it somehow becomes ok.



Wagram on 31 January 2015

Either way, him complaining about Nintendo is not good for them considering how large his fanbase is.



theprof00 on 31 January 2015

Stop brining up pewds first of all. Stop basing your entire argument around him.
Yogscast basically created the mine craft sensation
Pewds exploded flappy birds and hotline Miami trauma surgeon
slender studio is actually legit now because of YouTube's
binding of isaac was founded on three or four main letsplayers like northenlion. Actually one of the devs DOES lets plays himself of his own game.
Octodad is a bewildering success for a couple college grads because of exposure on YouTube and constant touring.