It's like people think that achievement/trophies will ruin the experience, when in reality it depends completely on the user whether they let something as insignicant as achievements/trophies to ruin their experience.

Yeah I've never had an Xbox so I didn't know if you could hide them and since PS4 trophies are connected to your PSN account, I assumed PS3 & PSV were implied.

Yeah I messed up on the poll. The yes option is meant for achievements to stay, while the no option is meant for them to go. Sorry about that.

Please elaborate why Steam achievements (or other systems with achievements like UPlay,iOS game center, Google play game services or Amazon Game circle) "don't count"?

They are working the same way as Xbox achievements and PlayStation trophies. You can track your game progress with them. You can share and compare them with friends. It can be an incentive to get the most out of a good game you like or to try different strategies.

I really don't see the point in achievements. They don't give me any incentive whatsoever to either keep playing a game, replaying a game, or doing 'good' in a game. Nor do they make me search for all kinds of trivial things for little more reason than a tiny text message if I don't feel like it. I honestly think it's the most useless invention to ever come out of the industry. I don't need them to 'track' my progress in games, or what else they're for, my memory is good enough for that. I'd rather take a full list of stats on everything, or something.

That said, I don't care. Not in the slightest, because it doesn't hurt me either way.

I don't care if they stay, I don't care if they go. I don't care if Nintendo doesn't include such a system ever, I don't care if they actually do.

From what I've seen Steam achievements are just used in a highly inflationary way, losing the meaning of doing them. (at least to me)
It's like they allow the devs to do them in whatever way they like.

Tales of Maj'Eyal has almost 1400 achievements
Team Fortress 2 over 500
Age of Empires 2 HD ~250
etc.

http://astats.astats.nl/astats/Steam_Games.php?DisplayType=Achievements

when I started TF2 it had maybe 70 or so. There's really no point in trying to get them when there can be weekly updates adding new achievements. Not good for completionists.

Also no really unified score system. Sony has levels and specific kind of trophies that add to the progress depending on their difficulty within the game. Now 360/X1 uses the same distribution with Gamerscore and sure there are some terribly easy-to-add-Gamerscore games that are able to skew the meaning of a high score/level, but those are few.

My ranking:
1. MS Achievements
2. Sony Trophies
3. Steam Achievements

MS being at the top for the only reason that they started it with the 360 and thus made ALL games compatible with it. Other than that there are pretty much the same as trophies.

Unified achievements are nice I guess, but not necessary. Games have had achievements for a very long time now, just not a unified system.

Keep them. Don't hurt anything and can be fun reason to replay games.

They add up and there is a place to look at a summary... it's called Steam profile:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Conina/

And even if there weren't a summary... you could still compare with friends the progress in individual titles... in the 80s a mere high score of an arcade machine was incentive enough to spend hundreds of quarters to compete with your friends. ;)

I like Fallen Earth more.
650 achievements and apparently over 100 of them broken.

I'm one or two trophies away from a platinum in a few games but I won't bother because I usually get the ones I want to get. I don't care about the platinum nor the number anymore. I've never heard of a game that was hindered by developers designing a game around them, and I don't think they are contributing to a bigger problem in modern games.

I knew that some were disinterested in them, but the new wave of hate is weirding me out.