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Should they reduce the price of the Wii U?

Yes, it's overdue. 220 61.45%
 
No, it's fine. 97 27.09%
 
Not sure. 41 11.45%
 
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DexInDaJungle said:
Einsam_Delphin said:
Are you implying the Wii U still has a chance at anything saleswise?


I think they have a chance to get out of the 30k-50k bubble that they were in practically all of 2014.


With no guaranteed system sellers except maybe Zelda who's still less than MK8 n Smash and wont arrive until the end of the year? Not a chance!



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The question you must answer is the sales increase will be worth the lose of revenue per unit?



DexInDaJungle said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yea but they didn't force anything from Nintendo though since Nintendo hasn't reacted and heck, the sales for december was Up in the US in YoY I believe even at that price for the wiiU


Right but it's still early considering they just made it permanent. Also I believe there was an increase YoY for all three simply because they all had more content to offer. Smash & Mario Kart for Nintendo. While they have a bigger (numbers not hype) line-up this year, one could easily argue that they already released their 2 biggest games for the console in the same year. Zelda will push consoles no doubt but highly doubt it can match Mario Kart/Smash, the rest will give small boosts for a few weeks.

This year there is more competition for Nintendo from Microsoft & Sony's first party as well as some really big third party games that more likely than not won't be appearing on the Wii U. So all in all, with the Xbox One now permanently being $350 and the PS4 having Last of Us bundled with it from now on, does Nintendo need to react, or are they simply gonna sit there and mind their own business?

Well of course its up cause it has more content to offer... Is there any console that goes up YoY with noticablly less content to offer? Games sell hardware so yea... Makes sense that more/bigger games sell more hardware...

But yes, I do understand that Nintendo should react and it makes the wiiU less appealing and etc but that doesn't mean that Microsoft "just" forced Nintendo's hand loll. If Nintendo hasn't reacted yet, that means Nintendo doesn't care. They might react in the future, sure, but saying that "Did Microsoft just force Nintendo's Hand?" is not really true cause Nintendo hasn't done anything

And heck, if there is a price drop, which I am sure there will be sometime this year, one could argue that its cause it was a natural price drop due to production costs being lowered rather than Microsoft forcing Nintendo cause there was no price drop in 2014 so there has to be one in 2015 or else they are just being greedy. But of course, that depends on the time frame of the price drop compared to x1's price drop

So imo, that title is incorrect since Nintendo hasn't reacted at all and I doubt they will do anything until the next Nintendo direct which considering we just had one, it will be a while till the next one



                  

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Maybe they should try a 2-3 week limited drop on price to see if sales change much. If they don't, then go back up. If they do... Stay low, or bundle on another game.



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Einsam_Delphin said:
DexInDaJungle said:
Einsam_Delphin said:
Are you implying the Wii U still has a chance at anything saleswise?


I think they have a chance to get out of the 30k-50k bubble that they were in practically all of 2014.


With no guaranteed system sellers except maybe Zelda who's still less than MK8 n Smash and wont arrive until the end of the year? Not a chance!


So you're saying, with Smash and MK already on the console, a price cut and a bigger line-up (in numbers, not hype) wouldn't have any chance of increasing their weekly sales? I disagree with that. I'm not saying they will be selling in the hundred thousands but I think they can get out of their bubble.



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really no reason to lower the price

it just is not going to draw in buyers. if someone wants to play Nintendo games then they aren't going to freak out over a 50$ price difference, especially when it is a cheaper console (despite less powerful) than its competitors

why lower the price if it is unlikely to draw in audiences? Nintendo has a core audience and the Wii U appears not to have pulled in casual gamers. the only way a price drop would help dramatically is IF the casual gamers were there, or heading there, and they're aren't. 

sure a price drop might help pull in buyers who are looking for a secondary console, but the majority of people don't have that much extra cash on hand to buy another system + game library / accessories

from a business standpoint it doesn't make much sense. if they (Nintendo) felt pressed like Microsoft is for market share then maybe it would make sense, but I believe Nintendo has already accepted the fact that they won't dominate this generation and now are just concerned with profitability. lowering the console price would help them staying competitive in the generation, not help with profits. i.e. it doesn't make sense to do at this point



Moonhero said:
Maybe they should try a 2-3 week limited drop on price to see if sales change much. If they don't, then go back up. If they do... Stay low, or bundle on another game.


it won't change things much

if someone has 250$ to buy a gaming system for fun then they certainly have 300$. the buyers are primarily youngsters parents OR middle aged gamers for any system, both angles that have money to spend

it just does not make sense from a business perspective. again if you NEED to carve out a portion of the market to survive then I understand dropping prices- but as it stands Nintendo can make money from their current prices. why risk that to gain more console purchases if it is likely to be an insignificant difference



Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Well of course its up cause it has more content to offer... Is there any console that goes up YoY with noticablly less content to offer? Games sell hardware so yea... Makes sense that more/bigger games sell more hardware...

But yes, I do understand that Nintendo should react and it makes the wiiU less appealing and etc but that doesn't mean that Microsoft "just" forced Nintendo's hand loll. If Nintendo hasn't reacted yet, that means Nintendo doesn't care. They might react in the future, sure, but saying that "Did Microsoft just force Nintendo's Hand?" is not really true cause Nintendo hasn't done anything

And heck, if there is a price drop, which I am sure there will be sometime this year, one could argue that its cause it was a natural price drop due to production costs being lowered rather than Microsoft forcing Nintendo cause there was no price drop in 2014 so there has to be one in 2015 or else they are just being greedy. But of course, that depends on the time frame of the price drop compared to x1's price drop

So imo, that title is incorrect since Nintendo hasn't reacted at all and I doubt they will do anything until the next Nintendo direct which considering we just had one, it will be a while till the next one

I didn't state that Microsoft forced their hand, I simply asked a question. That's why I added one of those weird symbols at the end.

I'm asking if, with everything Microsoft has done in the last 2 months and the succes they have recieved from it, should Nintendo do the same to try and increase their install base or do they keep the price and risk a decrease in their current baseline which is already pretty low.



Nintendo can drop the price all they want, people will still buy the PS4 and Xbox One a lot more than the Wii U. Just being honest.



DexInDaJungle said:

I didn't state that Microsoft forced their hand, I simply asked a question. That's why I added one of those weird symbols at the end.

I'm asking if, with everything Microsoft has done in the last 2 months and the succes they have recieved from it, should Nintendo do the same to try and increase their install base or do they keep the price and risk a decrease in their current baseline which is already pretty low.

Well, Nintendo hasn't really done anything for the last 2 months while the x1 had a price cut so I doubt they will do it based off of Microsoft's price cut. Should they do a price cut? Yes cause its been over a year since the last one. But I still don't think it will be due to Microsoft though but again, I guess we will have to wait and see when they do it



                  

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