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vivster said:
3 games for half a year. who needs more?

Well, the average consumer doesn't buy more than 10 games for an entire generation. That's like 2 games per year lol. Of course, the more (diverse) games you have, the bigger your potential userbase will become. 



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Game, set, and match goes to the 3DS.



kitler53 said:
FromDK said:
Seece said:
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And as I already explained, Smash not doing much over the holidays and MK's selling ability for hardware pittered out after a few months, does notgive me confidence they're going to raise sales. A best flat yoy.


But you do understand that the:

"Should we get a WiiU" "Does the WiiU offer some we want" "Is the games/experinces worth our money"  "value" are only going up.. 

MK 8 still is the single biggest reason why people will buy a WiiU in 2015-2016 (mayby  there could be other like splatton if it takes of.. But the point is "system sellers" do not have to be new games.. They just have to be good (and if they are loved at the same time.. it's just better)

And last.. That we have to see.. nobody knows.. but i believe that the "should we buy the new Nintendo" are bigger than ever.


mk 8 will be the single biggest reason why people will buy a wiiU in 2015-2016.   the fact that the biggest reason to get a wiiU in 2015-2016 is a 1-2 year old game is the single biggest reason why wiiU sales will be low in 2015-2016...

...even games with great legs still get the majority of their sales in the first 6 months.

It may be a 1-2 year old game... But it's still the new Mariokart.

And yes offcourse.. they are selling to the existing userbase to.

As time goes.. a higher and higher procent of a games (whit good legs) sale, will be to new owners

 

And just for the record.. You know that way more than 50% of people who will enter this console gen.. will not look at what year a game came.. but if they will play it?



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Game, set, and match goes to the 3DS.


What exactly do u mean by that?



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

3DS will hopefully have a bounceback enough to offset such an abysmal lineup for the Wii U. Seriously, none of those are "system sellers" in the traditional sense and it's going to be really rough for Wii U until E3.



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Darwinianevolution said:
Seece said:
In terms of selling hardware, 3DS should do very well, WiiU should be down, Donkey Kong and Mario Kart are far bigger than Kirby, Party and Splatoon.


Not really, the WiiU sales should be more stable than last year, all of its biggest titles are already released (SM3D World, Smash, MK8...) or are going to be released this year (Zelda U, Xenoblade X...). Also, Splatoon looks like it's going to be a big hit, everyone likes it, it should sell well even if it doesn't move that many consoles.

Everyone loved Shenmue II and it was a flop. lol



3DS will do good (even better than 2014)!
Wii U is dead...



FromDK said:
kitler53 said:
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mk 8 will be the single biggest reason why people will buy a wiiU in 2015-2016.   the fact that the biggest reason to get a wiiU in 2015-2016 is a 1-2 year old game is the single biggest reason why wiiU sales will be low in 2015-2016...

...even games with great legs still get the majority of their sales in the first 6 months.

It may be a 1-2 year old game... But it's still the new Mariokart.

And yes offcourse.. they are selling to the existing userbase to.

As time goes.. a higher and higher procent of a games (whit good legs) sale, will be to new owners

 

And just for the record.. You know that way more than 50% of people who will enter this console gen.. will not look at what year a game came.. but if they will play it?


i agree that late gen buyers won't care for the year of a specific games released.

late gen buys, imo, have two main concerns.

1. what did my friends and faimly have?   (wiiU is losing this one btw).

2. what is the entire library look like? 

and number 2 is where wiiU's best game being over a year old is a hinderance.  this quarter ps4 is getting the order 1886, bloodborne, battlefield, evolve (late gen buyers don't care about 1st vs. 3rd party), planetside 2, dying light, and all those indie games like grim fandago ect.  wiiU is getting splatoon and mario party i believe.  wiiU doesn't exist in a vacuum,.. it has competition.  nintendo's first party output can't even keep up with the amount of third party games on playstation and xbox and if the size of the library on non-nintendo consoles is 4-5x larger and covering a better variety of genres than on nintendo's console even great games like MK, smash, and zelda are easy to pass on.

being old isn't a big deal.  being old and most recent is...



What happened to Yoshi?



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this direct needed to be 3ds-focused, that system had next to no games announced beyond mm3d and was down yoy by a sizable amount. next spring direct will be wii u focused, i still think yoshi's woolly world will get a q1 or q2 release, and mario maker looks like a good june title. nintendo literally has so much stuff to release they cannot afford to let things fall farther back on the calendar--it'll end up resulting in a glut of games in the fall and holidays, taking focus away from their holiday titles (star fox, zelda for wii u, pokémon z and probably fire emblem for 3ds, seeing as that's been under development for some time).

by the way, wii u sales stagnated ahead of mk8 almost entirely. tropical freeze did not move units at all... that's a good add-on title (to smash or mk8), but not really a system seller by itself. neither are any of the q1 wii u titles, tho mario party always does respectably well, as does kirby. both of those will be 1m+ by the end of the year (as will captain toad), with kirby having a particularly good digital run given its small file size and budget price.

we need to hear about:
-yoshi's woolly world
-mario maker
-project giant robot / project guard

all were said to be q1/q2 titles, and yoshi in particular looks pretty damn near done. plus, good-feel does not have a history of delays (if there is a delay, it'll be on nintendo: maybe they need an august title, but i think devil's third fills that slot pretty well, and xenoblade in september is a perfect fit).

one last point on smash bros. increasing wii u sales... we cannot tell what holiday sales would have been like in the absence of smash bros. because smash bros. was the holiday title... same way we could not tell how much 3d world increased sales in 2013... to say categorically that it had no effect presumes that in a world where smash bros. had not been released, the wii u would have done the same numbers it did this past holiday. not sure how anyone can presume as much, but some people seem inclined to do so.