New hardware, new engine... but I get you don't understand that do you?

I see you completely ignored the point about two years on last gen being completely different than two years building a new engine and game on a new console, so I'll chalk that up as a point for Turn 10, thanks.

Regarding what you did respond to, they can innovate GT gameplay by changing the handling model, introducing a real damage modeling system and making it more realistic. The franchise has needed a reboot on its hilariously awful AI for years and years now. That's just off the top of my head without giving it much real though. And you know what? They actually get paid to sit around and think of this stuff! Imagine the possibilities they could come up with if they weren't busy remodeling the back wiper blade into the perfect spot on a premium car because it was off by 2 inches or porting in 300 standard cars from GT3.

What you're saying is you'd rather play the exact same game every time so long as there are 1,300 cars in the game. You're ok with racing around the same tracks or maybe even some new ones, plus some ones from last gen that are ugly and out of place, so long as there is content. It might feel exactly the same on those tracks as the last game, but who cares! There's so many! But less content with a chance of experiencing something actually new, fuck that noise! I need 41 different Skylines! I just.. can't agree with that. The funny thing is the franchise on the extremely long development cycle should be the one that is innovating the gameplay the most and the one on the two year cycle should be the one that feels like retreads, but in this case it's the exact opposite. And that comes from someone who played about as much GT 1-3 as anyone. I think aside from getting my Dreamcast, my gaming heart has never been as excited as when I went into Walmart and stumbled on the last copy of GT2.

So you can continue waiting on the GT6 retread, Forza fans will continue to experience good games every other year. And please, don't act as if PD is above milking. GT6 has microtransactions for fucks sake. This is the last reply I will make concerning GT though.

Sure all the DLC in GT6 has been free but none of it is very impressive and its poorly integrated into the main game (none of the DLC tracks are intergrated into the career mode) and what it really needed and was promissed a massive sound overhaul is still missing and will probably not happen until GT7.  Not to mention that Laguna Seca is completly off.

Sure bud sure, Gt6 has so few trackts that the add on ones are really soo needed to the career mode lol and just breaks the game with out them in it.

But what is trualy impressive is day one dlc.  On a content lacking game.  

All Forza games since FM4 had day one DLC so its nothing new there a tons of other games that also have day one DLC.  Don't like DLC don't buy it problem solved.  You are acting like someone is puting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy DLC for a game.

And that excuses it how ? ohh well we done it before so its ok to triple dip into the wallets of our fans.  

Awesome mentality, i hope you own ms stock.  

Again plenty of other games also have day one DLC but I don't see you bashing any of those.  I get it you don't like Forza then don't buy it problem solved.