It's gotta come down to $199.99 imo
They went hollow, like in Dark Souls.





walsufnir said:
I can understand that current owners want Nintendo to support the console, though. |
They could go the Twiglight Princess route, and release an updated version as a launch title.
@Walsufnir:
It's not just current owners. It's the picture Nintendo would draw of themselves. Never piss off your core fanbase. They're likely the early adopters of your next system.
About pushing Wii U, Xenoblade wont. Maybe a (very) little bit in Japan, but not in the rest of world.
Zelda might give Wii U the last push. But that not only depends on the game itself.
We dont know how much it has to sell to be profitable, but Zelda is lileky the most expensive Wii U game. So there's a real chance of Nintendo loosing money in the first place.
Mid- to longterm it might be more expensive though and a realistic chance of remakes making money.
They need to show support on Wii U, no matter if a successor arrives in late 2016 or late 2017.
| walsufnir said: At the current performance, I am not sure if Nintendo should release ZeldaU and Xenoblade on WiiU or their next next-gen-system, to be honest. |
First they would really piss off actual fan base, and they already said that they not going on next console without satisfied Wii U owners, and nobody can't be satisfied without new Zelda game, or any previously announced Wii U game.
Second almost every Nintendo 1st party game on Wii U have ridiculously high attach rate, they are selling very good.
And last, next Nintendo console maybe will have backward compatibility, if not later they can always make a port.
Guys, relax :) I just said it was an option for Nintendo. I guess you are all WiiU owners and I can totally understand the situation is quite unpleasant currently. I only was bringing my opinion to this as the userbase currently is extremely low in comparison and objectively. When ZeldaU releases, there isn't even a 10 million userbase guaranteed. Of course it will have a high attach rate but I don't know if this will be enough to make profit off the game.
The idea with a dual release might be good, by the way.

No smash bundle and no price cut, that's what happened. They'll probably laughing with all the money they have made.
If they make a loss this quarter then "fuck you" Nintendo

| walsufnir said: Guys, relax :) I just said it was an option for Nintendo. I guess you are all WiiU owners and I can totally understand the situation is quite unpleasant currently. I only was bringing my opinion to this as the userbase currently is extremely low in comparison and objectively. When ZeldaU releases, there isn't even a 10 million userbase guaranteed. Of course it will have a high attach rate but I don't know if this will be enough to make profit off the game. The idea with a dual release might be good, by the way. |
Seeing Mario Kart 8 selling 4 millions on 7 months and Smash Bros 3 millions on 7 weeks... If Wii U sells 16 - 18m I´m seeing those games at 7 - 9m each one, almost a 50% ratio, so I think is not that hard for Zelda to reach 5m (and if is REALLY a masterpiece maybe much more), and 5m should be profitable IMO




Goodnightmoon said:
Seeing Mario Kart 8 selling 4 millions on 7 months and Smash Bros 3 millions on 7 weeks... If Wii U sells 16 - 18m I´m seeing those games at 7 - 9m each one, almost a 50% ratio, so I think is not that hard for Zelda to reach 5m (and if is REALLY a masterpiece maybe much more), and 5m should be profitable IMO |
Even if Zelda U becomes the most expensive game on the system, Nintendo has always spent the right amount of budget to not depend of high sales. I'm sure Zelda U will be profitable with only 2 million units.
| walsufnir said: Guys, relax :) I just said it was an option for Nintendo. I guess you are all WiiU owners and I can totally understand the situation is quite unpleasant currently. I only was bringing my opinion to this as the userbase currently is extremely low in comparison and objectively. When ZeldaU releases, there isn't even a 10 million userbase guaranteed. Of course it will have a high attach rate but I don't know if this will be enough to make profit off the game. The idea with a dual release might be good, by the way. |
I am relaxed. :-p
About the Userbase, it should definitely at 10m when Zelda releases. I guess that will be somewhere in November. So about 10 month with 100.000 sales each. Wii U even managed to do so summer 2013 and i dont see it doing worse. Wont reach the numbers of last summer with Mario Kart 8 though.
If they manage to spread their releases over the year Nintendo should have a (niche) title for every month. They didn't have that in 2013. No big seller except for Zelda, but still.
Mario Kart 8 and Smash should keep the numbers up as well.
That said, without price cut and major steps in marketing i do not see Wii U doing much better than 10-11 million until Zelda gets released.