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DonFerrari on 03 January 2015
walsufnir said:
Nate4Drake said:
Every Company, every generation, release better development tools, and try to utilize at best the available resources.
Today we have an article about X1, tomorrow we will have another one about PS4, and then WiiU.

What will never change is PS4 APU/Architecture >(better) than X1 APU/Architecture >>(way better) than WiiU Architecture. That's all. Not that much to say in this Thread.


MS didn't only improve the tools but only made more resources (in this case, a core) available to devs. This doesn't happen all the time.


And from the perspective of some X1 fans the 50% gpu advantage wouldn't make much difference but now 10% CPU is all the thing?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Skidmore on 03 January 2015

Microsoft sacrificed the Kinect completly... I am not okay with that, it would just be like the Wii U pulling out the gamepad. All that without an Ambassador program.



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DonFerrari on 03 January 2015
walsufnir said:
DonFerrari said:
Nate4Drake said:
Every Company, every generation, release better development tools, and try to utilize at best the available resources.
Today we have an article about X1, tomorrow we will have another one about PS4, and then WiiU.

What will never change is PS4 APU/Architecture >(better) than X1 APU/Architecture >>(way better) than WiiU Architecture. That's all. Not that much to say in this Thread.


Actually I never saw an article saying PS4 powered up, but we have one at least montlhy about X1.


Show me the monthly updates, Ferrari. Really, I am totally open to your answer. Especially when you say "at least" I expect a massive post.

Let's make it since launch:

Dec 2013:

Jan 2014:

Feb 2014:

Mar 2014:

Apr 2014:

May 2014:

Jun 2014:

Jul 2014:

Aug 2014:

Sep 2014:

Oct 2014:

Nov 2014:

Dec 2014:


How many DirectX will improve X1 performance we had? dGPU? Freeing resource from Kinect (this is the second time of it), New SDK (I think it was at least 3).... So ignore all you want, but there was a lot of reports of improvement and power ups on X1 (even if we ignore MisterXmedia, that sure a lot of X1 fans touted as true) and none for PS4.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Aeolus451 on 03 January 2015
walsufnir said:
DonFerrari said:
Nate4Drake said:
Every Company, every generation, release better development tools, and try to utilize at best the available resources.
Today we have an article about X1, tomorrow we will have another one about PS4, and then WiiU.

What will never change is PS4 APU/Architecture >(better) than X1 APU/Architecture >>(way better) than WiiU Architecture. That's all. Not that much to say in this Thread.


Actually I never saw an article saying PS4 powered up, but we have one at least montlhy about X1.


Show me the monthly updates, Ferrari. Really, I am totally open to your answer. Especially when you say "at least" I expect a massive post.

Let's make it since launch:

Dec 2013:

Jan 2014:

Feb 2014:

Mar 2014:

Apr 2014:

May 2014:

Jun 2014:

Jul 2014:

Aug 2014:

Sep 2014:

Oct 2014:

Nov 2014:

Dec 2014:



Do you take everything that literal?

DonFerrari on 03 January 2015
Aeolus451 said:
walsufnir said:
DonFerrari said:


Actually I never saw an article saying PS4 powered up, but we have one at least montlhy about X1.


Show me the monthly updates, Ferrari. Really, I am totally open to your answer. Especially when you say "at least" I expect a massive post.

Let's make it since launch:

Dec 2013:

Jan 2014:

Feb 2014:

Mar 2014:

Apr 2014:

May 2014:

Jun 2014:

Jul 2014:

Aug 2014:

Sep 2014:

Oct 2014:

Nov 2014:

Dec 2014:


Do you take everything that literal?


If I was bad mouthing PS and upping MS he wouldn't do the same, don't worry.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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walsufnir on 03 January 2015
DonFerrari said:
walsufnir said:
Nate4Drake said:
Every Company, every generation, release better development tools, and try to utilize at best the available resources.
Today we have an article about X1, tomorrow we will have another one about PS4, and then WiiU.

What will never change is PS4 APU/Architecture >(better) than X1 APU/Architecture >>(way better) than WiiU Architecture. That's all. Not that much to say in this Thread.


MS didn't only improve the tools but only made more resources (in this case, a core) available to devs. This doesn't happen all the time.


And from the perspective of some X1 fans the 50% gpu advantage wouldn't make much difference but now 10% CPU is all the thing?

Ask the fans (who exactly?), not me.



walsufnir on 03 January 2015
DonFerrari said:
walsufnir said:
 


Show me the monthly updates, Ferrari. Really, I am totally open to your answer. Especially when you say "at least" I expect a massive post.

Let's make it since launch:

Dec 2013:

Jan 2014:

Feb 2014:

Mar 2014:

Apr 2014:

May 2014:

Jun 2014:

Jul 2014:

Aug 2014:

Sep 2014:

Oct 2014:

Nov 2014:

Dec 2014:


How many DirectX will improve X1 performance we had? dGPU? Freeing resource from Kinect (this is the second time of it), New SDK (I think it was at least 3).... So ignore all you want, but there was a lot of reports of improvement and power ups on X1 (even if we ignore MisterXmedia, that sure a lot of X1 fans touted as true) and none for PS4.


Expected answer when got called out. Sorry but you overdid it and can't reply appropriately. And don't say none for PS4 as there were articles about Cort's twitter account and PS SDK 2.0. I don't know why are you trying to paint a picture of PS4 being a "victim" here when it's clearly not.



DonFerrari on 03 January 2015
walsufnir said:
DonFerrari said:
walsufnir said:


MS didn't only improve the tools but only made more resources (in this case, a core) available to devs. This doesn't happen all the time.


And from the perspective of some X1 fans the 50% gpu advantage wouldn't make much difference but now 10% CPU is all the thing?

Ask the fans (who exactly?), not me.


So you think PS4 is a lot stronger than X1 and nothing MS does will ever diminish that gap right?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 03 January 2015
walsufnir 0 minutes ago
DonFerrari said:
walsufnir said:
 
 


Show me the monthly updates, Ferrari. Really, I am totally open to your answer. Especially when you say "at least" I expect a massive post.

Let's make it since launch:

Dec 2013:

Jan 2014:

Feb 2014:

Mar 2014:

Apr 2014:

May 2014:

Jun 2014:

Jul 2014:

Aug 2014:

Sep 2014:

Oct 2014:

Nov 2014:

Dec 2014:


How many DirectX will improve X1 performance we had? dGPU? Freeing resource from Kinect (this is the second time of it), New SDK (I think it was at least 3).... So ignore all you want, but there was a lot of reports of improvement and power ups on X1 (even if we ignore MisterXmedia, that sure a lot of X1 fans touted as true) and none for PS4.


Expected answer when got called out. Sorry but you overdid it and can't reply appropriately. And don't say none for PS4 as there were articles about Cort's twitter account and PS SDK 2.0. I don't know why are you trying to paint a picture of PS4 being a "victim" here when it's clearly not.

 

 

So you expected I would give you what was said about MS, like several reports, instead of me doing a lot of hard work just to compile all the reports??? No problem. How exactly have I overdid?

Yes there were 1 article about how they improved the calcullation of one aspect, not much about how much better PS4 games would get, unless you think there was any correlation between the 100x (or some ludicrous number like that) for that single task and 100x better resolution/fps/effects or anything else.

Have I said PS4 is a victm??? Nope, just said no one keep pushing it is improving because the games show that, while X1 get a lot of report for it because they need better PR.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

walsufnir on 03 January 2015
Aeolus451 said:
walsufnir said:
DonFerrari said:
Nate4Drake said:
Every Company, every generation, release better development tools, and try to utilize at best the available resources.
Today we have an article about X1, tomorrow we will have another one about PS4, and then WiiU.

What will never change is PS4 APU/Architecture >(better) than X1 APU/Architecture >>(way better) than WiiU Architecture. That's all. Not that much to say in this Thread.


Actually I never saw an article saying PS4 powered up, but we have one at least montlhy about X1.


Show me the monthly updates, Ferrari. Really, I am totally open to your answer. Especially when you say "at least" I expect a massive post.

Let's make it since launch:

Dec 2013:

Jan 2014:

Feb 2014:

Mar 2014:

Apr 2014:

May 2014:

Jun 2014:

Jul 2014:

Aug 2014:

Sep 2014:

Oct 2014:

Nov 2014:

Dec 2014:


Do you take everything that literal?


So what's the other option? Everyone here can say what he want, even if it's not true, and can get away with it? Seriously, this is not what this forum needs and what no forum needs. If you say something, you have to stand by it and when get called out, you should be able to prove what you said. This doesn't mean I expected DonFerrari to answer appropriately as he can't. I guess he overdid it in the sense of the thread where everyone gets a free shot at the competition's console while knowing nobody would care anyway. Well, with his post, I did. And we can see how he answered.