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DonFerrari said:
ryuzaki57 said:
Damn... imagine what happens when the price drops!

Well, don't enter there, haven't heard sony is so broken they can't cut the price.

I didn't say it was going to happen right now. I don't expect a cut before 2017.



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bubblegamer said:
PS4 still has much room to grow too. Exciting times ahead for sure.

Speaking of which, do you think China will make that much difference? I'm inclined to think 'no' but the lauch could give January a nice leg up going into Feb and March.



 

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ryuzaki57 said:
DonFerrari said:
ryuzaki57 said:
Damn... imagine what happens when the price drops!

Well, don't enter there, haven't heard sony is so broken they can't cut the price.

I didn't say it was going to happen right now. I don't expect a cut before 2017.


But by there Sony will already been bankrupted.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

ryuzaki57 said:
DonFerrari said:
ryuzaki57 said:
Damn... imagine what happens when the price drops!

Well, don't enter there, haven't heard sony is so broken they can't cut the price.

I didn't say it was going to happen right now. I don't expect a cut before 2017.


They'll have to cut it to fight Halo 5

I guess it could be temporary like this year's XB1 though..



GribbleGrunger said:
bubblegamer said:
PS4 still has much room to grow too. Exciting times ahead for sure.

Speaking of which, do you think China will make that much difference? I'm inclined to think 'no' but the lauch could give January a nice leg up going into Feb and March.

After the initial launch, not much. I think the sales there could be compared as those in France for example.



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bubblegamer said:

After the initial launch, not much. I think the sales there could be compared as those in France for example.

Maybe but I've got to be honest and say I'm not particularly optomistic about the effect China will have on sales and ANY consoles, although the PS4 being regiion free does give me reason to consider a 'possible' surprise in sales.



 

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Dusk said:
Turkish said:
Dusk said:
Turkish said:
Just wait when it's 299 next year... it's gonna sell even more.


What makes you think it's going to drop to 299 next year? Maybe near the end of the year to try to boost sales if it's necessary (meaning if sales slow down), but Sony can't afford to throw away too much money on consoles, their software sales haven't been as good as they were hoping. Well, the entire industries software sales have been down.


What makes you think Sony can't afford to lower the price to 299 next year? Do you seriously think consoles dont become cheaper to manufacture?

What makes you think their software sales havent been as good? Go check how many million sellers there are on the platform, and this is without the unranked digital sales which are much bigger this gen.


They are still loosing money on each console sold right now,

Yeah you dont know what you are talking about. PS4 has been making money a whole year now
http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/23/5744344/ps4-already-profitable-for-sony-ceo-says

Please do not spread misinformation and lies.



GribbleGrunger said:
bubblegamer said:

After the initial launch, not much. I think the sales there could be compared as those in France for example.

Maybe but I've got to be honest and say I'm not particularly optomistic about the effect China will have on sales and ANY consoles, although the PS4 being regiion free does give me reason to consider a 'possible' surprise in sales.

Having read the comments on X1 Chinese articles and video game forums, the two major complaints from the Chinese consumer were price and region locking. The PS4 will be less expensive and region free, giving it a big leg up over the X1. It will definitely enjoy a much better launch. Whether it'll have longevity in the Chinese market, I don't know. However, considering that the PS4 has exceeded our expectations several times, it is a possibility.



Turkish said:
Dusk said:
Turkish said:
Dusk said:
Turkish said:
Just wait when it's 299 next year... it's gonna sell even more.


What makes you think it's going to drop to 299 next year? Maybe near the end of the year to try to boost sales if it's necessary (meaning if sales slow down), but Sony can't afford to throw away too much money on consoles, their software sales haven't been as good as they were hoping. Well, the entire industries software sales have been down.


What makes you think Sony can't afford to lower the price to 299 next year? Do you seriously think consoles dont become cheaper to manufacture?

What makes you think their software sales havent been as good? Go check how many million sellers there are on the platform, and this is without the unranked digital sales which are much bigger this gen.


They are still loosing money on each console sold right now,

Yeah you dont know what you are talking about. PS4 has been making money a whole year now
http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/23/5744344/ps4-already-profitable-for-sony-ceo-says

Please do not spread misinformation and lies.

My mistake. I was thinking there was a price drop for the console, was just deals before and over the holidays. The prices seem to be normal now.



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Dusk said:
Turkish said:
Dusk said:


They are still loosing money on each console sold right now,

Yeah you dont know what you are talking about. PS4 has been making money a whole year now
http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/23/5744344/ps4-already-profitable-for-sony-ceo-says

Please do not spread misinformation and lies.

My mistake. I was thinking there was a price drop for the console, was just deals before and over the holidays. The prices seem to be normal now.


He was talking about PS4 already been making profit on HW even on the first year on market (first time for Sony), so your reply is off place.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."