Spoiler Alert: Steam console releases next year and kills PS4 momentum meaning this year is its peak :o
Spoiler Alert: Steam console releases next year and kills PS4 momentum meaning this year is its peak :o
| vivster said: So PS4 peaked early. |
PS4 did not peak yet, just first year after Launch. It will most probably peak when the Slim Model will be available(Nov 2015 or Sept 2016).
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Dusk said:
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So they're not out of stock and so it must mean that it peaked. X1 dropped in price FAR more. PS4 basically had $400 bundles with a couple games as their main BF deal. Meanwhile Xbox had $330 bundles with 2 or 3 games. They made far more profit and still sold more WW even with their lackluster bundle effort. Most of their big software is coming next year along with less cross-gen to further incentivize 7th genners to upgrade and with snowball effect and a return to price parity (or close to it even if Xbox stays at $350) I think they'll be just fine. Europe is going to continue to be a HUGE slice for Sony and Japan is definitely going to get stronger next year with software finally coming for that audience along with continued parity or near to it in the US=PS4 just now hitting its stride. Look at the sales trend of every Sony home console ever. That's a pretty good pattern established after 3 gens.
Troll_Whisperer said:
No way its first year is going to be its peak year. That's almost unheard of in video game console history. As far as I know, it only happened to GameCube and PS4 ain't no GameCube. With more software, a price cut and more people that have friends with PS4s, it's guaranteed to be up YoY. I'm willing to bet on it if you want. |
What's your point? It has nothing to do with a comparison between consoles, it has to do with the market, marketing, saturation, hype and games.
From some of the people I know that own PS4's, the more I hear that they aren't that happy with them because it's much of the same as PS3 just with less games. They weren't impressed with rereleases of games like GTAV and TLOU because they already had them on their PS3's, they enjoy shooters but for the most part don't like Destiny, so it's back to the same games with COD, AC, BF4 ect. I know a few Sony fans that are waiting for some Japanese RPG's to be released before they think about picking up the PS4 as well.
From what I have seen on here, the betting thing is kinda redonk, I'm gonna pass. But if I'm wrong, then that's fine. Although with how oddly successful the PS4 has been this year, especially when we keep hearing that the console market is shrinking, it could still be it's best year. Only time will tell.
Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.
| Turkish said: Just wait when it's 299 next year... it's gonna sell even more. |
What makes you think it's going to drop to 299 next year? Maybe near the end of the year to try to boost sales if it's necessary (meaning if sales slow down), but Sony can't afford to throw away too much money on consoles, their software sales haven't been as good as they were hoping. Well, the entire industries software sales have been down.
Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.
platformmaster918 said:
So they're not out of stock and so it must mean that it peaked. X1 dropped in price FAR more. PS4 basically had $400 bundles with a couple games as their main BF deal. Meanwhile Xbox had $330 bundles with 2 or 3 games. They made far more profit and still sold more WW even with their lackluster bundle effort. Most of their big software is coming next year along with less cross-gen to further incentivize 7th genners to upgrade and with snowball effect and a return to price parity (or close to it even if Xbox stays at $350) I think they'll be just fine. Europe is going to continue to be a HUGE slice for Sony and Japan is definitely going to get stronger next year with software finally coming for that audience along with continued parity or near to it in the US=PS4 just now hitting its stride. Look at the sales trend of every Sony home console ever. That's a pretty good pattern established after 3 gens. |
That's not what I said. You are inferring that. All I'm saying is that it seems that the sales have started slowing down, that's a hell of a lot different than peaked lol.
Actually here in Canada (where I'm from), the prices for the PS4 are far better than the X1, but there are some good X1 bundles with multiple games, but they are usually about $50 more than a comparable PS4 bundle.
I agree about Europe, not sure about Japan, they seem so handheld-centric.
Sure patterns are good, grand, wonderful and all, but that doesn't mean there aren't one offs. I'm not trying to be pessemistic, the PS4 has had a great year and next will likely be good as well, I just think it won't be as high, that doesn't mean it will stop selling.
Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.
| Dusk said: What's your point? It has nothing to do with a comparison between consoles, it has to do with the market, marketing, saturation, hype and games. From some of the people I know that own PS4's, the more I hear that they aren't that happy with them because it's much of the same as PS3 just with less games. They weren't impressed with rereleases of games like GTAV and TLOU because they already had them on their PS3's, they enjoy shooters but for the most part don't like Destiny, so it's back to the same games with COD, AC, BF4 ect. I know a few Sony fans that are waiting for some Japanese RPG's to be released before they think about picking up the PS4 as well. From what I have seen on here, the betting thing is kinda redonk, I'm gonna pass. But if I'm wrong, then that's fine. Although with how oddly successful the PS4 has been this year, especially when we keep hearing that the console market is shrinking, it could still be it's best year. Only time will tell. |
Eeeeh, that's super-anecdotal really. The chances of PS4 doing worse in its second year are close to nil, but as you said time will tell.
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Shadow1980 said:
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Yes, I knew about the Wii in Japan. Also, the Wii U in Japan (bar a miracle). I didn't know about those other cases, but I'd argue they are localized and always Nintendo systems.
I mean, I get it's technically possible that PS4 peaked in its first year, but it really is very, very unlikely.
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Dusk... I'll take your prediction as wishfull thinking, unless you can back that up... Saying "it sold so good, sony is poor, it isn't stock restricted anymore" isn't real reasons for sales to drop.

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