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TheBlackNaruto on 18 December 2014
kinisking said:
Yet it's beating ps4 with a 350$ price.


Did you actually read the OP or did you just comment first? I mean not that I agree but it was a sound analysis and made a lot of sense. But your comment makes no sense if you actually read the OP that's all.



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kinisking on 18 December 2014
TheBlackNaruto said:
kinisking said:
Yet it's beating ps4 with a 350$ price.


Did you actually read the OP or did you just comment first? I mean not that I agree but it was a sound analysis and made a lot of sense. But your comment makes no sense if you actually read the OP that's all.

Not going to lie I didn't read the OP at all.i simply know it's most likely wrong so I don't want to waste my time 



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theprof00 on 18 December 2014
binary solo said:
VanceIX said:
Well, seeing as that it is winning with the cutt, I think the analysis is off. That being said, we will see the real impact of it one way or another next year (assuming MS sticks with the cut).

You didn't read the Op did you? Or if you did you completely failed to understand its thesis. Not sure what's worse, failing to read or failing to understand.

@OP your logic is interesting, however it fails to account for one thing. There are roughly 100 million young'uns in the USA, roughly 40% want a game console, roughly 25% of those want a xb one and roughly 40% of them are not especially fussed about what console they get. That means roughly 26 million kids and teens who have birthdays evenly spread through the year. That means 200k birthdays per week spread over 5 years is 40K consoles per week as birthday presents, minus 10k for consoles bought for Xmas means 30k consoles. The price skew puts xbone at an ongoing weekly advantage which can mean xbone > PS4 most weeks.

Over 5 years, assuming that every kid gets one. Many kids don't play video games or some buy both. And a lot don't get consoles for birthday but something smaller. I only got consoles for xmas for example. Also, I don't entirely understand your numbers either, what about kids who want a ps4? Main demographic only means the largest portion, not 100%



theprof00 on 18 December 2014
kinisking said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
kinisking said:
Yet it's beating ps4 with a 350$ price.


Did you actually read the OP or did you just comment first? I mean not that I agree but it was a sound analysis and made a lot of sense. But your comment makes no sense if you actually read the OP that's all.

Not going to lie I didn't read the OP at all.i simply know it's most likely wrong so I don't want to waste my time 

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Zekkyou on 18 December 2014
kinisking said:

Not going to lie I didn't read the OP at all.i simply know it's most likely wrong so I don't want to waste my time 

If you don't want to 'waste your time', and you can't be bothered to read the OT, why comment at all? Posting based on assumptions is never a good idea, no matter what you think of the core topic.



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OfficerRaichu15 on 18 December 2014
cpg716 said:
Two factors that might change this....

1.) With more children getting the Xbox One this holiday, they will talk about it with their friends more. This could build it more with the younger generation. PS4 seems to skew older as it is..

2.) The PS4 sold SOOO well in its first year.. that sales might slow down heavily going into next year.. The Xbox One will likely stay at $349.. that price point might continue to help boost sales now.. where people were waiting to buy before..

your saying 2 major exclusives in less than a month and the like 100  50 retail exclusives wont keep it up yoy

xbox one is only $350 until january 3 in one of the xbo commercials I saw



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VanceIX on 18 December 2014
binary solo said:
VanceIX said:
Well, seeing as that it is winning with the cutt, I think the analysis is off. That being said, we will see the real impact of it one way or another next year (assuming MS sticks with the cut).

You didn't read the Op did you? Or if you did you completely failed to understand its thesis. Not sure what's worse, failing to read or failing to understand.

@OP your logic is interesting, however it fails to account for one thing. There are roughly 100 million young'uns in the USA, roughly 40% want a game console, roughly 25% of those want a xb one and roughly 40% of them are not especially fussed about what console they get. That means roughly 26 million kids and teens who have birthdays evenly spread through the year. That means 200k birthdays per week spread over 5 years is 40K consoles per week as birthday presents, minus 10k for consoles bought for Xmas means 30k consoles. The price skew puts xbone at an ongoing weekly advantage which can mean xbone > PS4 most weeks.

I read the OP, and understand the thesis just fine. Doesn't mean I agree with it. Just because parents were more interested in buying the One during black friday means that the PS4 is the grown-up choice? News flash- the under 18 demographic has always been a major factor for VG purchases, and shouldn't be counted out.



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alternine on 18 December 2014

Im inclined to agree.



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platformmaster918 on 18 December 2014
cpg716 said:
Two factors that might change this....

1.) With more children getting the Xbox One this holiday, they will talk about it with their friends more. This could build it more with the younger generation. PS4 seems to skew older as it is..

2.) The PS4 sold SOOO well in its first year.. that sales might slow down heavily going into next year.. The Xbox One will likely stay at $349.. that price point might continue to help boost sales now.. where people were waiting to buy before..

lol what?

If something sells well its first year the snowball effect is just heavier in year 2 and continues to grow till year 4 usually with Sony consoles.




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mymuro on 18 December 2014

Even if the infoscout data is correct, your assumption is totally wrong.

"So, 66% of parents bought an xb1 for a child and 45% of ps4 purchasers as well.
If we assume that normally, these purchases wouldn't exist except for birthdays, we can figure that on average, people will buy
x1: 248k
ps4: 305k"

Do you have proof that nobody bought X1/PS4 for their children during Q1-Q3 before making your bold assumption?