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riderz13371 on 10 December 2014
vivster said:
riderz13371 said:

The first guy holds a knife out in front of you and the only way to get to ellie is if you kill him. The other two are cowering in fear in the background. You don't need a kill counter, just some common sense =P. If someone is sitting in the back with their hands above their head then that means they want nothing to do with you. If someone is pointing a knife at your face then it's a pretty obvious sign they mean you harm. 

That knife was self defense because I have a fucking gun and the doctor knows that I'm ready to kill anyone in my way. He wouldn't have done anything if I just  grabbed Ellie.

The game wouldn't let me continue until I gave it a sacrifice. 3 Is always the correct number of things to collect in a game so I went with that. I can't use people logic if the game doesn't let me to. So I have to use game logic.

What @bold?Oh my god I can't believe I have to explain this shit to another human being...uhhhh

If it was "self defense" then why the fuck is he standing in the way between you and Ellie? If he just wanted to protect himself he would have hid in a corner with the knife in hand telling you to keep calm and not attack him and shit. But no, he knew you were going to take Ellie because I'm sure the Doctors were warned before hand by Marlene or the guards that Joel was making his way up the hospital. He didn't want you to take Ellie so that he could operate on her and try to find a cure.

If you want to discuss this any further you can PM me, I'm surprised I even feel the need to explain something so simple to you. 



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enditall727 on 10 December 2014
Yafea said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Yafea said:
About the doctors, I played the game 9 times and I always do the same thing, which is to kill the first doctor and spare the other two. I couldn't bring myself to do something else no matter what.

Same! I've never even thought about killing the other two. Just the one that's about to do the surgery, then grab Ellie and leg it.


I guess it's due to how the hospital level was handed in term of story and gameplay. Throughout the game, you can sneak around the areas using stealth and minimum killing. But in the hospital level, the game is forcing you to do what was basically a cleansing of the fireflies as way to show how Joel will do anything for Ellie, which means no one will be alive because "you'll come after her" in his own words to Marlene. By the time I reached the operation room and killed the 1st doctors, I felt something was wrong but it didn't hit me until the nurse said "you're a fu*king animal" and later begging for her life then I realized the truth which I found it hard to digest no matter how I tried. Joel isn't better than the other "bad" guys in the game. He is survivor, and will do anything to be that way. 


Well at thay particular time in the game, Joel IS the bad guy. If you really paid attention throughout the story, Joel KEEPS losing the people around him that he cares for. Something obviously happened to his wife, his daughter was.. you know, him and his brother had a falling out it didnt see each other for years until you ran into him at the damn( which you then see that the brother has a wife a potential family he has to look after), and the only person he was with that he cared for when they ran into Ellie was Tess. 

 

Throughout the game you can see that Joel avoids "caring" for people because of this. Then while they're taking Ellie to the fireflies, Tess, the one and only person  he could care for gets "taken away" from just like everybody else. Then he was stuck with some random kid. By the end of the game Ellie became someone that he was starting to care for no matter how much he tried to avoid it. When you were near the firefly hospital right after you killed that David guy who was trying to fuck Ellie, Joel had pretty much opened up to Ellie at that point and told her that he wasn't going to leave the hospital without her. So after this long journey with this girl who he had finally started caring for, they get there and Joel finds out that this whole journey was basically for Ellie to die.

 

So this time, the VERY LAST person with Joel that he cared for was about to be taken away from. Joel only had 1 thing left that was keeping him going and that was Ellie. He pretty much said it at the end of the game. Lol Joel showed marlene and her crew NO FUCKING MERCY when it came to Ellie. Even though it was probably right for Ellie to die for the sake of humanity, Joel didn't care. Joel became rhe bad guy at the end of the game.

 

Edit: also, that david guy was only eating people because they didn't have anymore food. There is a note on the counter right next to where you find Ellies backpack that pretty much shows how they were running extremely low on food. He was being nice and all buy Ellie was smart to not trust him because all he was trying to do was fuck her on some pedo type shit.

 



Aeolus451 on 10 December 2014

@BraLoD haha It's true about his english, though.

I really liked that game's sense of morality. It was more realistic. I also liked how easy it was to get attached to the characters in it. I can't wait for a sequel.



d21lewis on 10 December 2014

I got TLoU for free last year for PS3 on black Friday. Still haven't played much of it. Can't even watch the trailer or join in the fun. :(

I'm getting the PS4 version sooner or later, though. Can't believe I've avoided spoilers this long.



RobDX on 10 December 2014

lol that was funny, I also didn't want to kill the doctors so I holstered the gun and tried to punch the guy out of the way but Joel automatically slit his throat, that left me wondering if I did something wrong but after reading some comments I guess you are pretty much forced to kill at least one doctor, sadic game! lol



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Yafea on 10 December 2014
enditall727 said:
Yafea said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Yafea said:
About the doctors, I played the game 9 times and I always do the same thing, which is to kill the first doctor and spare the other two. I couldn't bring myself to do something else no matter what.

Same! I've never even thought about killing the other two. Just the one that's about to do the surgery, then grab Ellie and leg it.


I guess it's due to how the hospital level was handed in term of story and gameplay. Throughout the game, you can sneak around the areas using stealth and minimum killing. But in the hospital level, the game is forcing you to do what was basically a cleansing of the fireflies as way to show how Joel will do anything for Ellie, which means no one will be alive because "you'll come after her" in his own words to Marlene. By the time I reached the operation room and killed the 1st doctors, I felt something was wrong but it didn't hit me until the nurse said "you're a fu*king animal" and later begging for her life then I realized the truth which I found it hard to digest no matter how I tried. Joel isn't better than the other "bad" guys in the game. He is survivor, and will do anything to be that way. 


Well at thay particular time in the game, Joel IS the bad guy. If you really paid attention throughout the story, Joel KEEPS losing the people around him that he cares for. Something obviously happened to his wife, his daughter was.. you know, him and his brother had a falling out it didnt see each other for years until you ran into him at the damn( which you then see that the brother has a wife a potential family he has to look after), and the only person he was with that he cared for when they ran into Ellie was Tess. 

 

Throughout the game you can see that Joel avoids "caring" for people because of this. Then while they're taking Ellie to the fireflies, Tess, the one and only person  he could care for gets "taken away" from just like everybody else. Then he was stuck with some random kid. By the end of the game Ellie became someone that he was starting to care for no matter how much he tried to avoid it. When you were near the firefly hospital right after you killed that David guy who was trying to fuck Ellie, Joel had pretty much opened up to Ellie at that point and told her that he wasn't going to leave the hospital without her. So after this long journey with this girl who he had finally started caring for, they get there and Joel finds out that this whole journey was basically for Ellie to die.

 

So this time, the VERY LAST person with Joel that he cared for was about to be taken away from. Joel only had 1 thing left that was keeping him going and that was Ellie. He pretty much said it at the end of the game. Lol Joel showed marlene and her crew NO FUCKING MERCY when it came to Ellie. Even though it was probably right for Ellie to die for the sake of humanity, Joel didn't care. Joel became rhe bad guy at the end of the game.

 

Edit: also, that david guy was only eating people because they didn't have anymore food. There is a note on the counter right next to where you find Ellies backpack that pretty much shows how they were running extremely low on food. He was being nice and all buy Ellie was smart to not trust him because all he was trying to do was fuck her on some pedo type shit.

 

I knew joel wasn't perfect and has many flaws, it was obvious throughout the course of the game with everyone you met. I was ignoring these signs due to how he was with ellie and how the game emotionally manipulating us to sympathise with him "lost his daughter among other things." It was just during the hospital level it became so hard to ignore that and to see Joel's "true color."  He is not bad or evil, but he'll do whatever it takes to protect the ones he cares for. That what makes the last of us amazing. It leaves many things up to the interpretation of the players. It's morally ambiguous and filled with many shades of grey. We need more of that in storytelling of video games. Sure this kind of stories are hard to digest, but that what makes this game memorable and a modern classic. We can talk forever about the game and we won't end the discussion anytime soon. 



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torok on 10 December 2014
enditall727 said:


I aint buying no god damned game mode..

 

It looks like I wont be platinuming this game after all


You don't need the Grounded mode to platinum it. DLC trophies don't count to the platinum, you just need all the regular ones. PS All Stars had DLC trophies, but I just got all normal trophies and got the platinum (even with the game at 97% trophy completion).



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