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vivster said:
riderz13371 said:

The first guy holds a knife out in front of you and the only way to get to ellie is if you kill him. The other two are cowering in fear in the background. You don't need a kill counter, just some common sense =P. If someone is sitting in the back with their hands above their head then that means they want nothing to do with you. If someone is pointing a knife at your face then it's a pretty obvious sign they mean you harm. 

That knife was self defense because I have a fucking gun and the doctor knows that I'm ready to kill anyone in my way. He wouldn't have done anything if I just  grabbed Ellie.

The game wouldn't let me continue until I gave it a sacrifice. 3 Is always the correct number of things to collect in a game so I went with that. I can't use people logic if the game doesn't let me to. So I have to use game logic.

What @bold?Oh my god I can't believe I have to explain this shit to another human being...uhhhh

If it was "self defense" then why the fuck is he standing in the way between you and Ellie? If he just wanted to protect himself he would have hid in a corner with the knife in hand telling you to keep calm and not attack him and shit. But no, he knew you were going to take Ellie because I'm sure the Doctors were warned before hand by Marlene or the guards that Joel was making his way up the hospital. He didn't want you to take Ellie so that he could operate on her and try to find a cure.

If you want to discuss this any further you can PM me, I'm surprised I even feel the need to explain something so simple to you.