Plus it wasn't even Black Friday. I'd say Black Friday will probably sell 1m-1.2

They just need two more things to reach the top: saving PSV and above all BRINGING BACK KEVIN BUTLER!!!   

I just hope that the VITA isnt dead, just working on a game for it for next year...so need it to be alive :(

Yeah I would love Kevin Butler to come back, he was awesome, but after that whole nintendo/tyres episode, not sure thats going to happen.

The problem of PS3 before the Slim release was the high price, really too much higher compared to 360. Also PS3 came out 1 full year later in NA and Japan, and 16 months later in Europe. 360 got a stronger line-up, more games, better multiplatform games, and developers got almost immediately used with the MS machine, while it was a nightmare with PS3, with its way more complex architecture and less balanced.  All was against PS3, and Sony had to reinvent PS3 with the Slim Model to compete with Wii and 360.  Also, the playstation PR and management Team was less efficient than the current one, and basicly PS3 was getting smashed by 360 every Nov and Dec NPD, like Sony almost didn't care at all, but just happy for the very good sales in Europe. 

The 360 had gained the faith of all, and had established a dominance in NA, with a PS3 who seemed unable to react.

Now the situation is so different, so many things changed, and now MS is the one who have to invent strategies to compete with Sony in their own territory.

you also forgot about the RROD :P

Your right, I forgot :)

When do sony and ms usually announce numbers?

I remember last year we got it right around December 1st from Microsoft I believe.

People have been saying Amazon numbers will be out in the next day or so but isn't there still Cyber Monday?

Because cyber monday will occur outside November's NPD I wonder if they'll make separate announcements.

The longer MS doesn't say anything, the better the outcome of BF looks for them. If MS says some BS about shipping or competitivity, there is a 95% chance that they lost it.