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VanceIX on 26 November 2014
theprof00 said:
VanceIX said:
After RROD and early PS3 deaths, I'm completely fine with making a few inches more space in my entertainment center.

It's not really about the system being too big. It's about the system being designed big to fake a slimline revision. MS will release a slim within a year, I guarantee that, and everyone will praise them for it. That is what this is about.

Well, I guess we'll see.



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RidingMower on 26 November 2014

I agree OP. The way you described everything was a bit explicit, but overall good points.



theprof00 on 26 November 2014
RidingMower said:
I agree OP. The way you described everything was a bit explicit, but overall good points.

Yeah, sorry for some of the word choice ;D
I'm still developing my style in terms of creative writing, so I'll definitely concede that the writing is off.
thanks for the post



V-r0cK on 26 November 2014
theprof00 said:
V-r0cK said:
Microsoft is definitely not a designing company. I dont think I've really liked the look of any of their products except the newest 360 version, but that took 3 tries.

Really? Because most people (at least in the US) will say that MS makes the best controllers. How is it possible that MS can perfectly engineer a controller, with no wasted space, high quality parts and huge efficiency, that not only sports a rather beautiful minimalistic face design while being as internally deep and imaginative as the ocean floor?

Of all the MS controllers they've made the 360 is probably my favourite of theres (the XB1 is similar but feels a bit off compared to 360), but kind of sucks that they dont just have built in battery as I do find that bulkiness of the battery pack for the 360 to be clunky.  Pretty sad that MS controllers are the same price as PS and they don't have built in battery.  And their D-pad sucks but has good analog sticks.

But to your point, how does a company that can make a good controller yet still make a massive system?  My answer, MS is not a designing company.  Sure they release a few nice looking products, but overall their products aren't all appealing.  Lets forget about the very first Xbox controller =)



GamechaserBE on 26 November 2014
RolStoppable said:
theprof00 said:
VanceIX said:
After RROD and early PS3 deaths, I'm completely fine with making a few inches more space in my entertainment center.

It's not really about the system being too big. It's about the system being designed big to fake a slimline revision. MS will release a slim within a year, I guarantee that, and everyone will praise them for it. That is what this is about.

I refuse to believe that Microsoft is an evil corporation.

Indeed and did the year not already pass? Honestly I am just happy it works whatever the engeneering =p.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 26 November 2014

15/10 Gameinformer

5/1 Escapist

9.8 IGN -too much PS4 pictures

106 Metacritic

Brilliant writing.



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ICStats on 26 November 2014
theprof00 said:
ICStats said:

The XB1 is oversized so that it can be more quiet.  Remember, the've designed the XB1 to be on all the time while you watch TV.

I can leave my XB1 on all the time inside a cabinet and it won't overheat / blast the fan. My PS4 requires a lot more air circulation otherwise the fan gets loud.

Have you ever built a computer?
You'll then know that the only reason it's whisper quiet is because of that gigantic fan. 20mm's are so silent. I only use 20's in my cases now because they are so smooth. They run a tiny bit more in energy cost, but the heat dissipation at the decibel level is unbeatable.

Furthermore, I'm not sure that open space means more quiet. I'd have to see some proof of that.


Right.  They have a gigantic fan.  But it's not the only reason.

- The XB1 has a lot more vent space than PS4 so there is more air getting to the fan.  PS4 runs at higher air pressure / speed needed through the vents.
- No heat from the power supply in the box.




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theprof00 on 26 November 2014
V-r0cK said:
theprof00 said:
V-r0cK said:
Microsoft is definitely not a designing company. I dont think I've really liked the look of any of their products except the newest 360 version, but that took 3 tries.

Really? Because most people (at least in the US) will say that MS makes the best controllers. How is it possible that MS can perfectly engineer a controller, with no wasted space, high quality parts and huge efficiency, that not only sports a rather beautiful minimalistic face design while being as internally deep and imaginative as the ocean floor?

Of all the MS controllers they've made the 360 is probably my favourite of theres (the XB1 is similar but feels a bit off compared to 360), but kind of sucks that they dont just have built in battery as I do find that bulkiness of the battery pack for the 360 to be clunky.  Pretty sad that MS controllers are the same price as PS and they don't have built in battery.  And their D-pad sucks but has good analog sticks.

But to your point, how does a company that can make a good controller yet still make a massive system?  My answer, MS is not a designing company.  Sure they release a few nice looking products, but overall their products aren't all appealing.  Lets forget about the very first Xbox controller =)

Just look at it from this point of view.
Why does the controller not include a li-on battery and still have the same price? Because it makes them more money.
Everything in terms of the design of both the controller and system come down to one thing. Money.
The xb1 slim will prompt repurchases by current owners, along with satiating power constraint concerns by fence sitters. It also costs much less for the parts they've decided to use in this current xb1. I really can't stress enough how cheap these components are. Nothing in there is custom. It's all off the shelf pc parts.
And when you see the slim and its customized space management is, you'll wonder why they didn't do this in the first place.
The answer is most assuredly not 'heating'.
The answer, is money.



Chris Hu on 26 November 2014
V-r0cK said:
Microsoft is definitely not a designing company. I dont think I've really liked the look of any of their products except the newest 360 version, but that took 3 tries.


The newest 360 only looks slightly better then the regular slim verison and there are a lot of people that pefer the look of that version.  Well at least they did a slightly better job then the PS3, pretty much everyone perfers the look of the regular slim compared to the top loading final model.  Both final models of the PS3 and 360 where pretty much unecessary since they pretty much use the same hardware as the previous versions and did not come about due to a die shrink.



Conina on 26 November 2014
V-r0cK said:
Microsoft is definitely not a designing company. I dont think I've really liked the look of any of their products except the newest 360 version, but that took 3 tries.

The Surface Pro 2 + 3 are praised for their design + build quality.

The Microsoft mice and gamepads are also very ergonomic and reliable.