The problem with "pc" is that there are all kind of pc.... Some even less suited for gaming than the xb1!

I think the best way to define PC is to use the average steam PC specs and go from there. Everyone knows the PCs can be beasted out but they can also suck ass *looks sadly at his PC that bluescreens daily :(*

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

So you are basically saying that the advantages the PS4 has are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things when looking at how a game is made? Just asking to be sure this is what you are saying....

And to OP, I think this is a forgone conclusion. Though there are many in denial in some way or the other and would go to some rather great lenghts to downplay the advantages (or disadvantages) of their platform of choice.

U also can factor in different games and see thinks like Xb1 = Ps4 or even Xb1 > Ps4

We can agree that, Pc is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consoles graphically. Rest is debatable

Again you are reading it wrong. Not irrelevant but not in any case the 40% or 50% difference people use in discussions because "facts". There is a lot in a system and the architecture that is accountable for performance while not being mentioned in the specs.

Ok. As long as we agree its not irrelevant I mostly agree with you. Now on to what yu are saying and what I think about it.

You are actually right, there is a lot more to how a game is made besides CPU/GPU that affects its overall performance that isn't factored into most peoples argumnets. This however does not change or dispute the "fact" that those things people say...all that 30%-50% perf. dvantage they seem to suggest for the PS4; are still "facts". Without going into too much detail, a very very very straightforward simple example is just comparing the resolutions of the average XB1 game to that of the average PS4 game. 900p vs 1080p. One of those resolutions is about 30% more than the other. This is a "FACT". The problem though is where a fact like that causes issues.

When people say that the PS4 is 30-50% more powerful than the XB1. They almost come off as if saying that a game will be 30-50% better on the PS4 than it is on the XB1. This is actually true and usually the case, the real world truth is that, that "better" in question is not an obviously percieveable difference. Its not easy to just spot 30% more pixels or to spot 3 less framerate drops in a 5 minute period.  All that doesn't still change that they are there though.

Comparing ultra PC settings to a €400 console is not fair at all, but sure in the big picture this is true.

what PC ??? most steam user will not agree with that LOl :D :D :D

unless if u talking about more expensive one or slightly expensive one that also on par with PS4 in "some " games.

I see in your pic that you like playing with fire, but watch out. Some people might not appreciate this.

By virtue of math, yes the PS4 is more graphically powerful than the XBO. Its just math. What they do with the math is a different topic all together but because the GPUs use the same architecture, yes, it can not be denied that the PS4 is the stronger machine graphically.

Now PC is a different animal altogether. If you check out the Steam Stats, people have all sorts of machines. Some are more powerful, but a lot are not. Graphically.