Fortune: Once left for dead, Nintendo expects best holiday season in years - Pachter now says Wii U could turn around!?

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eva01beserk on 21 November 2014

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Who is that guy and what did he do with the Pachter I know and hate?!

Maybe pachter is the one having the resurgense, preety soon our hate for him will fade, and who knows, maybe turn into love. ;P

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I'm telling you Nintendo is going to rock this holiday man.

They are making the right moves. People don't realize is that this is a marathon not a race. Nintendo should know they've been in it longer than almost anybody else....

I'm pretty sure a marathon is a race.

Meant sprint.....

Marathon or sprint. Either way, they're coming in last.

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Gammalad on 21 November 2014

Now is Pacther expecting 4M LTD or 4M this holiday season?

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binary solo on 21 November 2014

Best holidqy season ever...for Wii U.

Maybe a better holiday season than Wii's 2012, but I dunno if it can quite do that.

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Kerotan on 21 November 2014

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I agree they can have a resurgence with profits and i'd say they will play it really safe with the production of their next console. So massive losses prob won't occur even if the Wii U 2 flops.

But in terms of the Wii U making a comeback absolutely not. In October it sold a mere 69k units. Japan it sold maybe 30k and the rest of the world was bad. SSB will give it a great boost but that's not hard when the baseline is so low. It will be like MK8. Then by Feb it will have gone back down.

I hope they don't play it too safe w the next console - I think that has been one of the problems w the Wii u- they wanted to see if the market would commit to it before they were willing to - they have been playing catch up ever since

they could make an over all profit on it though. If they had of gone full tilt and it cost a lot more to make they could have lost a shit load of money.

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Kerotan said:

Dunban67 said:

Kerotan said:
I agree they can have a resurgence with profits and i'd say they will play it really safe with the production of their next console. So massive losses prob won't occur even if the Wii U 2 flops.

But in terms of the Wii U making a comeback absolutely not. In October it sold a mere 69k units. Japan it sold maybe 30k and the rest of the world was bad. SSB will give it a great boost but that's not hard when the baseline is so low. It will be like MK8. Then by Feb it will have gone back down.

I hope they don't play it too safe w the next console - I think that has been one of the problems w the Wii u- they wanted to see if the market would commit to it before they were willing to - they have been playing catch up ever since

they could make an over all profit on it though. If they had of gone full tilt and it cost a lot more to make they could have lost a shit load of money.

I don't mean they should have made more expensive hardware as much as committing to the potential of the gamepad- yea it would have taken more upfront investment but that is the reality of the videogame home console market that exist today - it's not like it wa when Nintendo owned the market - in a way, the success they had w the Wii prob convinced themselves the market would comit to them first but that is. It likely to happen often and after the slow launch of the Wii u and its software ( as it was w the 3DS) I imagine most people will be willing to wait Till after launch to see how things go before committing to their next platforms

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bunchanumbers on 22 November 2014

The hardest part is over. The media perception of Wii U being dead has been the hardest thing to overcome. There were so many articles telling people to wait for the X1 and PS4 to launch. It really hurt Wii U during the 2013 year. Gamespot's article about Nintendo's Plan to kill the Wii U and they did a 'The Point' episode asking if the Wii U is dead come to mind. Now they are calling it an essential console to own.

To go from that to where they are now with all the positive coverage is nothing short of a miracle. All the nominations for The Game Awards 2014 is proof that Wii U is recognized on a industry level now. I hope it translates to good sales for Nintendo and the Wii U. They both deserve it.

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Kerotan on 22 November 2014

Dunban67 said:

Kerotan said:

Dunban67 said:

Kerotan said:
I agree they can have a resurgence with profits and i'd say they will play it really safe with the production of their next console. So massive losses prob won't occur even if the Wii U 2 flops.

But in terms of the Wii U making a comeback absolutely not. In October it sold a mere 69k units. Japan it sold maybe 30k and the rest of the world was bad. SSB will give it a great boost but that's not hard when the baseline is so low. It will be like MK8. Then by Feb it will have gone back down.

I hope they don't play it too safe w the next console - I think that has been one of the problems w the Wii u- they wanted to see if the market would commit to it before they were willing to - they have been playing catch up ever since

they could make an over all profit on it though. If they had of gone full tilt and it cost a lot more to make they could have lost a shit load of money.

I don't mean they should have made more expensive hardware as much as committing to the potential of the gamepad- yea it would have taken more upfront investment but that is the reality of the videogame home console market that exist today - it's not like it wa when Nintendo owned the market - in a way, the success they had w the Wii prob convinced themselves the market would comit to them first but that is. It likely to happen often and after the slow launch of the Wii u and its software ( as it was w the 3DS) I imagine most people will be willing to wait Till after launch to see how things go before committing to their next platforms

at this point nintendo would need to personally fund publishers to make their 3rd party games for the next console. That will cost a ridiculous amount of money.