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Conegamer said:
This is too much now. For someone who loves and grew up with the original two (and later three)

Welcome to the club kid lol. I'm 35 and us 80's kids have had to endure Hollywood raping every single one of our cherished and beloved franchises FOR YEARS. Now, natrually, it's the 90's kids turn. Shit's gon' get bad.



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bananaking21 said:
Augen said:
No. No. They wrapped it up perfectly with 3. This is a shame and feels like just a way to make money, not tell a storey. Pixar feels more like DreamWorks these days with all the sequels.

Atleast dreamwork sequals are awesome. How to train your dragon two was outstanding to say the least. Kung fu panda 2 was brilliant as well. 


We seem to be at an odd intersection where the two studios are becoming roughly equal. A decade ago the gap was massive.  Dreamworks makes very solid fun films, but Pixar use to be special elevating the medium and challenging audiences.  I'll never forget watching the first ten minutes of Wall-E and Up in utter awe at the story telling.

I am not bad mouthing DreamWorks, they are perfectly competent and I guess we could do worse than Pixar being competent and making good films. I enjoyed the Dragon films just fine, but they didn't really do anything that surprised me.  I just got spoiled when Pixar seemed to push things technically and always took chances with new ideas.

It is simply too good to pass up now and make a good sequel watching the millions roll in.



As long as Hanks and Allen are in, it's gonna be a good time. Have some faith. Hell, I rarely watch the Simpsons, but sometimes I do and it's still pretty funny, and that's been on most of my life lol.



Although Toy Story 3 ended the trilogy perfectly. I wouldn't ming a 4th one. By 2017, It'll be 7 years since the last film. I'm pretty sure it'll be good.



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Groundking said:
It always pains me to see people call the shittier pixar movies 'dreamworks quality', despite the fact that HTTYD 1+2 are better than anything pixar has done apart from maybe Up and Wall-E, and Kung-Fu-Panda 1+2 are far better than the past 4 Pixar movies. And TBH I'd go as far to say that outside of Wall-E and Up they've only made bad to average movies.

This just further proves to me that Pixar under Disney is a bad bad idea, a company who once said they never wanted to do sequels (outside of Toys 2 as it was their special film) to having 4 out of their named 6 films being sequels.


Here is the difference for me. How to Train Your Dragon 1 & 2 were fine films, but they did not challenge or do anything new. They were well crafted with solid characters and fun stories, but at no moment did I feel I was watching anything special. Anything that moved me as a person.  Now, there is nothing wrong with a fun film, and it is certainly far better than forgettable films like Shark Tale or Over the Hedge. DreamWorks has learned that its old style of "pop culture references, act hip and get big name VA" held them back from making good films.  How to Train Your Dragon avoided all those pit falls and is big part of why it is good.

Now, compare that to the end of Toy Story 3, a film on the surface about living toys has a deeper meaning on life. The toys represent childhood, and so many of us struggle as childhood dies and is replaced with adulthood. It is a bittersweet moment in our lives when we are faced with letting go and moving on. When Andy looked at Woody the pang of cherished memories and sense of loss it elevated that film beyond just being fun (which it was) and into introspection of life.  This theme is tied through out the three films, with the Toys own mortality being their main opposition.  To be tortured by a child, to be unloved and treated as museum piece, to be replaced and forgotten.  The toys live with the fear that their existence is tied to another, and it is only at the end of 3 that Andy appreciates how much of his own life is tied to them and what he is giving up. This is tempered that he understands that this is part of life much in the way his mother is letting go of him as he goes off to University to start his own life.  It was beautiful and it did all this not through heavy handed exposition, but nuances of animation and expression of emotion.  

To me a good film is one I enjoy. A great film is one that I enjoy and makes me think and/or feel.  We all have our own feelings on the issue of story telling, certainly take no issue if you enjoy something more or less than I do. Just my two cents as to why Pixar holds a special place fear it is losing when it makes more superficial films.



Eh i'll give it the benefit of the doubt, I'm kinda upset they aren't ending it at 3 but if they're going to keep making unwanted sequals ad prequals (Plane, Planes 2, Cars 2, Monsters University) They should atleast do one that has a chance to be good.



Augen said:


Here is the difference for me. How to Train Your Dragon 1 & 2 were fine films, but they did not challenge or do anything new. They were well crafted with solid characters and fun stories, but at no moment did I feel I was watching anything special. Anything that moved me as a person.  Now, there is nothing wrong with a fun film, and it is certainly far better than forgettable films like Shark Tale or Over the Hedge. DreamWorks has learned that its old style of "pop culture references, act hip and get big name VA" held them back from making good films.  How to Train Your Dragon avoided all those pit falls and is big part of why it is good.

Now, compare that to the end of Toy Story 3, a film on the surface about living toys has a deeper meaning on life. The toys represent childhood, and so many of us struggle as childhood dies and is replaced with adulthood. It is a bittersweet moment in our lives when we are faced with letting go and moving on. When Andy looked at Woody the pang of cherished memories and sense of loss it elevated that film beyond just being fun (which it was) and into introspection of life.  This theme is tied through out the three films, with the Toys own mortality being their main opposition.  To be tortured by a child, to be unloved and treated as museum piece, to be replaced and forgotten.  The toys live with the fear that their existence is tied to another, and it is only at the end of 3 that Andy appreciates how much of his own life is tied to them and what he is giving up. This is tempered that he understands that this is part of life much in the way his mother is letting go of him as he goes off to University to start his own life.  It was beautiful and it did all this not through heavy handed exposition, but nuances of animation and expression of emotion.  

To me a good film is one I enjoy. A great film is one that I enjoy and makes me think and/or feel.  We all have our own feelings on the issue of story telling, certainly take no issue if you enjoy something more or less than I do. Just my two cents as to why Pixar holds a special place fear it is losing when it makes more superficial films.

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I'd be a lot more comfortable with more Toy Story films if they started with a brand new cast of toys. The trilogy ended so perfectly; let the story of Woody, Buzz and the others be done. It took place over the span of 15 years: enough time for the original audience to start elementary school, finish college and start families of their own! Let my generation have our trilogy intact and untainted, and let this new generation have their own cast of memorable characters that they can grow up with.

Also, did anyone notice how the first film begins with a shot of clouds in the sky, and the third film ends with a similar shot? I felt like that was the director telling us that the story really was over for these guys, and that we had seen all we needed to see.



Groundking said:
BraveNewWorld said:
Wonktonodi said:

notice 3 of the top 4 rated ones have something in common...

and I liked Mosnters U, brave they had the problem where the actually had to fire the director. As for Dreamworks, the how to Train your dragon movies are up there with the best of Pixar though there lows I've not seen but I doubt they are as bad as the cars movies

I like a lot of Dreamworks movies, but most of them are mediocre.

The Prince of Egypt
Chicken Run
Antz
Shrek
Shrek 2
Kung Fu Panda
How to Train Your Dragon
Mosters Vs. Aliens
How to Train Your Dragon 2

 

I like all of those films. But the rest of them just don't click with me.


I thought the Croods was an excellent film also.

My friend also likes Megamind still haven't seen it so I don't know.  But for a traditional animated movie I thought The Road to El Dorado was pretty good it had the best soundtrack out of all Dreamworks Animated movies but it kinda bombed at the box office.