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jlmurph2 on 06 November 2014
Arcturus said:
jlmurph2 said:
Arcturus said:
Globally? US only?

What are we looking at here?


Amazon.com

You're an experienced poster. Figure it out.

Of course I can figure it out. I'm trying to point out that this information should be in the thread title on the OP to create better discussions.


Everyone knows that unless you specify the country, "AMAZON" means the US online retailer. There is no worldwide amazon list.



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alrightiwill on 06 November 2014

Tagging because I can never bloody find the monthly best sellers :p

Good to see XBO having a good time, even if it is just USA. While I don't think anyone here actually expects to see XBO outsell PS4 3:1 this November, it would be nice to see a win. I would hate for the millions of people who already bought a console see it go redundant within a couple of years like Dreamcast owners :(



blessedswine on 06 November 2014
Imaginedvl said:
mutantclown said:
The more it sells, the more they lose. The percentage of market share they may gain by doing this in the short run won't justify the loss.

I believe they know better than you do about that (bold) :)
More marketshare = more game, live, accessory sales = more money at the end...


yet MS hasnt turned a profit on the xbox in all these years with all the R&D cost and losses on system, not to mention the blunder that was RROD,  its the reason they took losses from 2001-2010 and only started making money on it in the last 4 years and with the xbox1 pricecut, and free game deals and whatnot im sure they are taking a loss again.  the rumors about spinning the brand off or selling it im sure will come back.,



Imaginedvl on 06 November 2014
blessedswine said:
Imaginedvl said:

I believe they know better than you do about that (bold) :)
More marketshare = more game, live, accessory sales = more money at the end...


yet MS hasnt turned a profit on the xbox in all these years with all the R&D cost and losses on system, not to mention the blunder that was RROD,  its the reason they took losses from 2001-2010 and only started making money on it in the last 4 years and with the xbox1 pricecut, and free game deals and whatnot im sure they are taking a loss again.  the rumors about spinning the brand off or selling it im sure will come back.,

You are talking like the brand means nothing, you know in the big picture it is important to count that too. The value of the brand itself is enough :)
You realize Sony did lose a LOT of money on PS3 like Microsoft with the 360 for instance and I do not see them spining off the Playstation division. The brand worth a huge pile of money.

Microsoft is investing in Xbox because the brand is now very well know. Microsoft will never let this go as one of their priority is to be the center piece of the living room. If Xbox One will not meet their expectation in that area, they will at least have build a good footing for the next generation. Not to mention Xbox Music, Xbox Videos etc...

You must look at the overall picture­.

And as far as the rumors... They are exactly that: rumors.



FIT_Gamer on 06 November 2014
kupomogli said:
mutantclown said:
The more it sells, the more they lose. The percentage of market share they may gain by doing this in the short run won't justify the loss.

I completely disagree.  Sony's wasting the six million lead that they've gained on Microsoft by not follwing and doing the same thing. 

$300-500 million over the holiday season is  a lot less to lose than giving up marketshare.  More people will have the Xbox One, so devs will further gimp PS4 versions to maintain Xbox One neutrality, the money lost would be mad back with only a few games or XBL/PS+, and since more people own the console there's the whole view of how many were sold as well as friends who want to get the same consoles as their friends. 

Microsoft might be losing money in the short run, but they're gaining far more back in the long run.  You might as well say they have gained money by doing this rather than losing money,.

You do realize this deal is for the U.S. only? Even if the Xbox One wins Nov./Dec. it's highly unlikely it be enought to make up the difference for PS4's Europe sales and the rest of world. PS4's lead over the Xbox One will still increase.



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kupomogli on 06 November 2014
FIT_Gamer said:
kupomogli said:
mutantclown said:
The more it sells, the more they lose. The percentage of market share they may gain by doing this in the short run won't justify the loss.

I completely disagree.  Sony's wasting the six million lead that they've gained on Microsoft by not follwing and doing the same thing. 

$300-500 million over the holiday season is  a lot less to lose than giving up marketshare.  More people will have the Xbox One, so devs will further gimp PS4 versions to maintain Xbox One neutrality, the money lost would be mad back with only a few games or XBL/PS+, and since more people own the console there's the whole view of how many were sold as well as friends who want to get the same consoles as their friends. 

Microsoft might be losing money in the short run, but they're gaining far more back in the long run.  You might as well say they have gained money by doing this rather than losing money,.

You do realize this deal is for the U.S. only? Even if the Xbox One wins Nov./Dec. it's highly unlikely it be enought to make up the difference for PS4's Europe sales and the rest of world. PS4's lead over the Xbox One will still increase.

Even if Xbox One doesn't sell more worldwide, they're still going to close the gap in how well each console is perceived in doing because of marketshare percentage.

Example.  PS4 has 20 million Xbox One has 10 million.  PS4 has 60 million Xbox One has 40 million.  Despite having sold 20 million more consoles at 60 million, doesn't really look like it's sold that much more in comparison to the first example.   



blessedswine on 06 November 2014
Imaginedvl said:
blessedswine said:
Imaginedvl said:

I believe they know better than you do about that (bold) :)
More marketshare = more game, live, accessory sales = more money at the end...


yet MS hasnt turned a profit on the xbox in all these years with all the R&D cost and losses on system, not to mention the blunder that was RROD,  its the reason they took losses from 2001-2010 and only started making money on it in the last 4 years and with the xbox1 pricecut, and free game deals and whatnot im sure they are taking a loss again.  the rumors about spinning the brand off or selling it im sure will come back.,

You are talking like the brand means nothing, you know in the big picture it is important to count that too. The value of the brand itself is enough :)
You realize Sony did lose a LOT of money on PS3 like Microsoft with the 360 for instance and I do not see them spining off the Playstation division. The brand worth a huge pile of money.

Microsoft is investing in Xbox because the brand is now very well know. Microsoft will never let this go as one of their priority is to be the center piece of the living room. If Xbox One will not meet their expectation in that area, they will at least have build a good footing for the next generation. Not to mention Xbox Music, Xbox Videos etc...

You must look at the overall picture­.

And as far as the rumors... They are exactly that: rumors.

i know the xbox brand is worth money thats why investors keep saying to sell it that its not part of MS core buisness, which its not.   There was rumor last year that they(certain big investors) wanted MS to look and see if Samsung wanted to buy the XBox brand.



FIT_Gamer on 06 November 2014

The list has updated. Interestingly enough COD AW(PS4) has passed COD AW(XB1).



Welfare on 06 November 2014
FIT_Gamer said:
The list has updated. Interestingly enough COD AW(PS4) has passed COD AW(XB1).


Bundles will balance it out.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

prinz_valium on 06 November 2014

weekly 3th
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014-11-03/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar#1


november overall
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014-11/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar#1