You're correct. Feminism doesn't cancel out egalitariansim because egalitarianism wants equality for everyone. I'm a feminist myself, but I am also egalitarian. The problem with those who look at feminists (on the female end) is that they see them as a bunch of male hating feminazi's when it couldn't be any further from the truth. Truth is even feminists cannot stand some feminazi's.

Am I the only one who hates it when controversies are given a name that has "gate" added to the end of it? Watergate isn't the first-ever controversy in the history of ever.

But anyway, I think it is an issue, but will have a different outcome. Personally, if this controversy becomes large enough, I think it will actually be the trigger for the next video game crash. We're already seeing so many signs match up from the crash in the 1980's.

I don't think uniting against an entirely fictional common enemy works for anyone other than the north koreans.

It was given the name Gamer gate because of the controversey with Zoe Quinn cheating on her boyfriend for good reviews for her game. It was debunked later that she was ever having sex for reviews by the company doing the reviews. In essence Gamergate has found someone to attack at this point even though the real corrupt people who have a history of accepting lavish invites with the expectations of good reviews are out there.

then please explain this. Face it, the feminism of yesteryear is gone. It's all shit now. It's not like feminism before was all that great either (they did and caused stupid shit too, but at least they did some good too).

http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/

Just take a look at that garbage.

Feminism has nothing to do with a womans society. It has everything to do with equality between men and women. We get closer and closer to equality but we're not there yet.

i personally believe that at this point gamergate is a fool's gambit

it started with exposing a lack of integrity in journalism and i completely respected that

however, now it seems to be actually about attacking zoe quinn and anita sarkesian more than about getting to the bottom of the rabbit hole with regards to jounralism

when i first heard about it i was like people who aren't aware before that the media is only there to control their perception are now paying attention? this is great!

but now several weeks later i personally don't see any progression with regards to an investigation into journalism

zoe quinn actually gave a great description of the current situation in a recent interview where she said and i'm paraphrasing

that what people who back gamergate aren't acknowledging is that the power structure that decides what media is put out there and by extension what the population thinks is far deeper than the writers and even those who supervise the writers

also this power structure is not exclusive to video games it controls all of the media we consume in that what we are exposed to in the media is directly a result of how it benefits those with the deepest pockets or the most power

which means that if the truth is inconvenient it will not be displayed in the media

so now instead of actually analysing this power structure and how it works we have loads of gamergate people focused on how many men zoe quinn slept with

so to me ultimately all gamergate is going to achieve is to add to the idea that gamers are female hating losers

what rights do men have that women do not?

Like I said, feminism has become something different than it originally was. A social movement is really only what those who identify under its banner turn it into. Feminists have turned feminism into something fairly twisted, and therefore, that is what feminism is. I don't disagree with the fundamentals of Feminism, I just dislike all the shit that gets piled up on top of that. 

This is no different than the people who attack GamerGate. It isn't and never was about mysogyny, but a few trolls made some comments and now that is all anyone ever talks about when it is brought up. GamerGate has become, to the masses and to outsiders, an anti-womens movement. That is why I make it clear what I am talking about whenever I discuss it, instead of just waving its banner and acting shocked when people don't understand me. 

In what reality do you live in where the media isn't corrupt? I want to live there too...

I think you got the order of things backwards. It started with people exposing all the shit around Zoe Quinn and then, when it began to fall under the GamerGate banner, it became about corruption in the media (the SJW-nature of some media falls under the "clickbait/sensationalism" section of corruption). 

"but now several weeks later i personally don't see any progression with regards to an investigation into journalism": What do you mean by investigation? Nobody denies the nepotism in the industry. Even industry figures acknowledge that it is going on, they just disagree on whether or not it matters. Even still, progress has been fairly quiet, but there have been quite a few sites who have updated their disclosure policies to be more open with readers. 

GamerGate isn't an "investigation", it is a social movement. It is there to raise awareness and spark conversation...I'd say that it met that goal, however, not without a plethora of unwanted side effects.

oh i was wrong then i said that because most of the comments that i see now are adhominem attacks like what i described whereas before comments seemed more focused on the integrity of journalism

but yeah i was never involved too deeply in this

by investigation i'm talking about acquiring facts on a particular issue

well if there is no investigation into what is going on or in other words no one is attempting to reveal other cases where corruption has influenced media then what is the point of continuing gamergate?

to me it seems naive to believe that showing 1 or 2 cases where this has happened will demonstrate that there is a problem that needs attention

i would think that the way forward would be to gather more information about other cases where corruption is influencing media to show that it really is a substantial problem

otherwise most people are not going to take you seriously

i'm betting that a year from now everything will be back to how it was previously except that the general public is going to perceive gamers in a more negative way... so what was the point?

"It is there to raise awareness and spark conversation...I'd say that it met that goal"

therefore the goal was only ever to talk about a problem and not attempt to change it?

seems kind of pointless to me... although come to think of it that's right nothing has changed really...

except the lives of zoe quinn and anita sarkesian who are under constant attack because of this movement

now i do think they deserve some criticism but as i said earlier a lot of it is just misogynistic bs