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HyrulianScrolls on 01 November 2014
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

That's assuming lifetime Wii U sales of 14m. It'll do better than that I reckon.

That's debatable ... 

With this year being very likely the peak for the WII U, I'm surprised that the WII U will go on to sell similar numbers like last year. With the WII U currently tallying up to 2 million units with latest shipment data suggesting an overtrack of 300K units, the WII U has so far sold 1.7 million units this year. If we can take a look at an otpimistic case that the WII U will sale about 50% of it's units for the holdiays that will come to around a total of 3.5 million units which is roughly a 10% increase from last year's sales of 3.2 million units. 

At the end of the year the WII U should come to have sold 8.8 million units and the next year is the WII U's only decent year left since Nintendo will have played every cards they can get their hands on. With another optimistic expectation the WII U should reach 11 million units by then but how exactly is Nintendo supposed to sell 3 million more units when the wells are dried up ? 

I'd bet every penny that this is not Wii U's peak selling year, especially with all the heavy hitters next year. The second full year on the market used to be a common peak year for consoles, but seventh gen changed all that. 360 and PS3 both had their peak years later than that. I'm guessing 8th gen will be similar.



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fatslob-:O on 01 November 2014
HyrulianScrolls said:

I'd bet every penny that this is not Wii U's peak selling year, especially with all the heavy hitters next year. The 360/PS3 both went longer into their lifespans before having peak years. The second full year on the market used to be a common peak year for consoles, but seventh gen changed all that. I'm guessing 8th gen will be similar.

If I may ask what are the WII U's heavy bitters for next year ? 

The last gen HD twins both had better software support than the WII to sustain their lives longer so unless Nintendo are willing to do the same it won't hold true for the WII U ... 



HyrulianScrolls on 01 November 2014
fatslob-:O said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

I'd bet every penny that this is not Wii U's peak selling year, especially with all the heavy hitters next year. The 360/PS3 both went longer into their lifespans before having peak years. The second full year on the market used to be a common peak year for consoles, but seventh gen changed all that. I'm guessing 8th gen will be similar.

If I may ask what are the WII U's heavy bitters for next year ? 

The last gen HD twins both had better software support than the WII to sustain their lives longer so unless Nintendo are willing to do the same it won't hold true for the WII U ... 

Well for starters I completely believe Smash is a huge heavy hitter for not just Holiday, but all of Q1 and Q2 2015. The hype around it already seems way bigger than MK8, which gave the Wii U a nice sales bump for a few months. I'm actually hearing Nintendo naysayers saying they want the system just for Smash, and it's not even out yet. If word of mouth starts spreading once it comes out, it could be all Wii U needs for a long time in 2015.  Aside from that though, they have enough  first party exclusives lined up next year to release nearly one per month. They may not actually release one every month, but either way we should get a solid 10 first party Nintendo games. Opposed to this year which pretty much just had Donkey Kong, MK8, Hyrule Warriors, and Smash. 2015's lineup is nowhere near as sparsely populated, and that's assuming nothing big unannounced comes out towards the end of the year, which is still a possibility. I also wouldn't underestimate Mario Maker. The Minecraft fad shows how much gamers (kids especially) like to create their own stuff.



fatslob-:O on 01 November 2014
HyrulianScrolls said:

Well for starters I completely believe Smash is a huge heavy hitter for not just Holiday, but all of Q1 and Q2 2015. The hype around it already seems way bigger than MK8, which gave the Wii U a nice sales bump for a few months. I'm actually hearing Nintendo naysayers saying they want the system just for Smash, and it's not even out yet. If word of mouth starts spreading once it comes out, it could be all Wii U needs for a long time in 2015.  Aside from that though, they have enough  first party exclusives lined up next year to release nearly one per month. They may not actually release one every month, but either way we should get a solid 10 first party Nintendo games. Opposed to this year which pretty much just had Donkey Kong, MK8, Hyrule Warriors, and Smash. 2015's lineup is nowhere near as sparsely populated, and that's assuming nothing big unannounced comes out towards the end of the year, which is still a possibility.

It's not about having more games ... It's about having more impact and for 2015 I see nothing other than Splatoon or Zelda ...



HyrulianScrolls on 02 November 2014
fatslob-:O said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

Well for starters I completely believe Smash is a huge heavy hitter for not just Holiday, but all of Q1 and Q2 2015. The hype around it already seems way bigger than MK8, which gave the Wii U a nice sales bump for a few months. I'm actually hearing Nintendo naysayers saying they want the system just for Smash, and it's not even out yet. If word of mouth starts spreading once it comes out, it could be all Wii U needs for a long time in 2015.  Aside from that though, they have enough  first party exclusives lined up next year to release nearly one per month. They may not actually release one every month, but either way we should get a solid 10 first party Nintendo games. Opposed to this year which pretty much just had Donkey Kong, MK8, Hyrule Warriors, and Smash. 2015's lineup is nowhere near as sparsely populated, and that's assuming nothing big unannounced comes out towards the end of the year, which is still a possibility.

It's not about having more games ... It's about having more impact and for 2015 I see nothing other than Splatoon or Zelda ...

Smash, Zelda, Star Fox, Mario Maker, Splatoon, and the combination of Yoshi and Kirby's games should be more than enough of an impact to beat 2014's, which essentially just boils down to MK8 and 1 month of Smash. And I think there's still at least one 2015 heavy hitter we don't know about yet. My guess is Animal Crossing, which is a massive selling series in its own right.



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HyrulianScrolls on 02 November 2014

We're not factoring in Amiibos either. If they catch on like say Skylander figures did, then that alone would make 2015 a bigger year for Wii U.



fatslob-:O on 02 November 2014
HyrulianScrolls said:

Smash, Zelda, Star Fox, Mario Maker, Splatoon, and perhaps the combination of Yoshi and Kirby should be more than enough of an impact to beat 2014's, which essentially just boils down to MK8 and 1 month of Smash.

1 month of Smash in the holiday season of 2014 will have just as much impact as the rest of the game's life. Zelda's system selling potential got watered down when Wind Waker HD and Hyrule Warriors released but it gets more watered down cause Nintendo opted out for not a very fond art style. Star Fox has lost a lot of it's popularity so it's nowhere near as strong as you think it is. Mario Maker will sell tons of more WII U's when three other mario games are already out there on the WII U ? Kirby ?! LOL, that franchise is getting more irrelevant with each passing day and the same goes for Yoshi ... What favours are these games going to do for the WII U when they have some troubles selling 1 million units on a bigger install base ? 



HyrulianScrolls on 02 November 2014
fatslob-:O said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

Smash, Zelda, Star Fox, Mario Maker, Splatoon, and perhaps the combination of Yoshi and Kirby should be more than enough of an impact to beat 2014's, which essentially just boils down to MK8 and 1 month of Smash.

1 month of Smash in the holiday season of 2014 will have just as much impact as the rest of the game's life. Zelda's system selling potential got watered down when Wind Waker HD and Hyrule Warriors released but it gets more watered down cause Nintendo opted out for not a very fond art style. Star Fox has lost a lot of it's popularity so it's nowhere near as strong as you think it is. Mario Maker will sell tons of more WII U's when three other mario games are already out there on the WII U ? Kirby ?! LOL, that franchise is getting more irrelevant with each passing day and the same goes for Yoshi ... What favours are these games going to do for the WII U when they have some troubles selling 1 million units on a bigger install base ? 

No one said they were huge sellers. But any first party exclusive is good for Wii U, and a Kirby and Yoshi game combined will be at least the impact of say Hyrule Warriors. Smash will probably sell more in 2015 than MK8 this year. Zelda+Animal Crossing can be the Smash equivalent for next Holiday. Mario Maker will be much bigger than Donkey Kong for sure. So I've just matched everything up to this year, and not even accounted for some other games scheduled like Splatoon, Mario Party, Xenoblade, or Star Fox. And whatever impact Amiibo has. I've given you plenty of reasons why 2015 can have a bigger impact than 2014 for Wii U.



fatslob-:O on 02 November 2014
HyrulianScrolls said:

No one said they were huge sellers. But any first party exclusive is good for Wii U, and a Kirby and Yoshi game combined will be at least the impact of say Hyrule Warriors. Smash will probably sell more in 2015 than MK8 this year. Zelda+Animal Crossing can be the Smash equivalent for next Holiday. Mario Maker will be much bigger than Donkey Kong for sure. So I've just matched everything up to this year, and not even accounted for some other games scheduled like Splatoon, Mario Party, Xenoblade, or Star Fox. And whatever impact Amiibo has. I've given you plenty of reasons why 2015 can have a bigger impact than 2014 for Wii U.

And I've given you reasons why these titles don't have a bigger impact than 2014 ...

Kirby is NOT a system seller. Yoshi is NOT a system seller. Animal Crossing U is NOT confirmed. You have to compare Mario Maker to DONKEY KONG in terms of system selling power ?! Mario Party is DECLINING starting with Mario Party 3D. Xenoblade is NOT a system seller. Star Fox has DECLINED. Amiibo is NOT a game. 

You really don't have anything other than Splatoon or Zelda to count on for selling the WII U ...

This is not looking rosy like how you imagined it would be ...



Smear-Gel on 02 November 2014

It did not even take two pages for this to morph into a Wii U sales debate god dammit guys.

It should outsell double Dash. It might actually be the biggest sales surprise of the holidays.