Seems you do given how defensive you are getting about the subject.  But maybe you dont and thats cool, but other might.  You sure dont speak for all.

By the way nothing more annoying and pathetic this day and age then getting a shiny new game throwing it in anticipating epic gaming just to stare at a loading page for hours.  

It is because it adds time to play the game... these mandatory day one patch don't allow you to play the game without them... so you buy the BD and start to install (that takes a time already) and while that it download the mandatory 10GB patch that take even more time.

That is why Xbone users are loud about the installations wasting 40 minutes or more.

The problem with the Zune analogy is simply this.

Zune was better than the iPod
Xbox One isn't better than the PS4.

So if two games are completely identical except one is 900P and one is 1080p the one with 1080p isn't better? I have a hard time beliving anyone would agree with that.

This isnt a doom thread? LOL

I consider the xbo more than I used to, it gets better every month an update comes out. I think it is getting better, and over time so will the numbers.

I am slowly changing my opinion of the xbo and it is becoming more of a factor everyday PSN is down again or my shit gets compromised again bc of shitty network sony security, which has NO excuses now peeps are paying.

Whats a zune?      (i kid)

The Xbox One's biggest problem is the mountains of subjective fud floating around the internet. If you read an endless succession of deliberately exaggerated 'problems', downplayed or ridiculed advantages and outright lies you might actually believe the X1 isn't a really enjoyable experience.

Hopefully any undecided newbies understand the nature of VGC's problem and the webz' overall bias and form their own opinion based on more than a long-standing hatred for The Evil Empire or an inability to objectively view their experiences on PS consles during those halcyon formative years before they became jaded, bitter and full of hate. Imo.

Also in my opinion the OP just oozes bias and the guesstimate of as little as 30m LT for the X1 is an indicator of just how far from objectivity he is. On a ten scale I'd put him at 7. Ethomaz is about an 8.5 but i'm around a 2.5, maybe a 3 so subtract my bias quotient and they are a 4 and a 5.5. I just made this up what do you think? Lets rate everybody!

NO ONE SAID IT IS AN EXACT COMPARISON.

Why?  I said 30-40m.  I think the PS4 will sell 100m, and the X1 will sell less than half the number of the PS4.  Not crazy at all.

FYI people called be a fanboy when I said based on the hardware the PS4 will be between 75%-100% stronger than the X1.  Oh look Ubisoft's own benchmarks confirm this.  Sometimes reality is biased.

How is it a shit comparison.  I perfectly illustrates my point.  Sorry if you can't make the connections. :/

Basically this. The Zune had several advantages over the iPod back then. X1..... not so much, if any at all...