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prinz_valium said:
Aerys said:
prinz_valium said:
Aerys said:

Do you think the PS4 will sell more by 2015 than the Wii U for the entire generation ?

Could be more than possible if we consider Wii U will struggle to even reach 17M, and based on actual PS4 sales,  ( around 12M )  PS4 domination and PS3 sales on it's first holiday ( 4,9M , PS4 cant do less) , 18-19M PS4 sold by 2015 is more than possible


when did ps3 4.9m first holiday?

it did about 4m the frist two holiday seasons according to vgc

 

where did u get ur numbers from

Oh yeah you are right, it did 4,4M

 

 

Is the title better now ?


4.15m first holiday

4.1m second holiday

to be exact (if we use vgc numbers)

 

maybe u got some shipped numbers form sony. that could be 4.9

 

 

and ps4 doing over 4m form oct - dec is a given. that would not even be as much as the nov- dec launch (4.2m)

5m is in range, too but i dont see much higher numbers...

5.5m maybe, but not 6m+

1.2m in October, 2.3m in November, 3.3m in December?? That's 6.8m! 



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Ninsect said:
prinz_valium said:
Aerys said:
prinz_valium said:
Aerys said:

Do you think the PS4 will sell more by 2015 than the Wii U for the entire generation ?

Could be more than possible if we consider Wii U will struggle to even reach 17M, and based on actual PS4 sales,  ( around 12M )  PS4 domination and PS3 sales on it's first holiday ( 4,9M , PS4 cant do less) , 18-19M PS4 sold by 2015 is more than possible


when did ps3 4.9m first holiday?

it did about 4m the frist two holiday seasons according to vgc

 

where did u get ur numbers from

Oh yeah you are right, it did 4,4M

 

 

Is the title better now ?


4.15m first holiday

4.1m second holiday

to be exact (if we use vgc numbers)

 

maybe u got some shipped numbers form sony. that could be 4.9

 

 

and ps4 doing over 4m form oct - dec is a given. that would not even be as much as the nov- dec launch (4.2m)

5m is in range, too but i dont see much higher numbers...

5.5m maybe, but not 6m+

1.2m in October, 2.3m in November, 3.3m in December?? That's 6.8m! 


300k each week in oct?

no way. lets go with 250k = 1m

ps3 best october was 1.1m (after slim model release in september)

 

100% oct - nov bump? at MAX. ps3 never did that. it was always 9x%

 

1m oct

1.8 - 1.9m nov

3m dec

 

that would still be below 6m

 

 

 

i would go for 800k oct, 1.5m nov and 3m dec --> 5.3m



Id say by end of 2014 PS4 will sale near what wiiu will sale over all.

2015 will be a very bad and potentially second to last year for it on the market. The sheer number of games for PS4/X1 will do away any decent sales capability it may have. The lack of quality 3rd parties will be much of it but exclusive content for the other will take away the little advantage wiiu could ever trump up as reason to buy it.

A safe prediction by end of 2015 PS4 will be +10/15 million in sales over wiius best LT sales it can possibly get.



prinz_valium said:




300k each week in oct?

no way. lets go with 250k = 1m

ps3 best october was 1.1m (after slim model release in september)

 

100% oct - nov bump? at MAX. ps3 never did that. it was always 9x%

 

1m oct

1.8 - 1.9m nov

3m dec

 

that would still be below 6m

 

 

 

i would go for 800k oct, 1.5m nov and 3m dec --> 5.3m


Iv seen this before from you and you really go to get it through your head that the PS3 and PS4 are two different beasts in way different market positions.  You are basing your estimate for a world wide gaming console market leader, that means leding in EVERY market.  To a 3rd place loser for much of its life.  

How do you not see the fallacy of it ?

Certain markets 360 could be used as a base line others the wii or even PS2, but guessing what PS4 will do based on what PS3 did is comical.  



I only see the Wii U selling 25 million tops, so yeah PS4 will most likely sell more in it's second year than Wii U in it's lifetime.



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prinz_valium said:
Ninsect said:

1.2m in October, 2.3m in November, 3.3m in December?? That's 6.8m! 


300k each week in oct?

no way. lets go with 250k = 1m

ps3 best october was 1.1m (after slim model release in september)

 

100% oct - nov bump? at MAX. ps3 never did that. it was always 9x%

 

1m oct

1.8 - 1.9m nov

3m dec

 

that would still be below 6m

 

 

 

i would go for 800k oct, 1.5m nov and 3m dec --> 5.3m

300k average, yes. Some weeks higher, some lower. It's currently being undertracked.

Haven't you learned by now that PS4 is no PS3? PS4 will have a huge BF and November in the world in general will be huge due to its #1 hot status.

Well, you're always pessimistic about PS4 so there's nothing to do but wait for you.



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Aphelion said:
prinz_valium said:




300k each week in oct?

no way. lets go with 250k = 1m

ps3 best october was 1.1m (after slim model release in september)

 

100% oct - nov bump? at MAX. ps3 never did that. it was always 9x%

 

1m oct

1.8 - 1.9m nov

3m dec

 

that would still be below 6m

 

 

 

i would go for 800k oct, 1.5m nov and 3m dec --> 5.3m


Iv seen this before from you and you really go to get it through your head that the PS3 and PS4 are two different beasts in way different market positions.  You are basing your estimate for a world wide gaming console market leader, that means leding in EVERY market.  To a 3rd place loser for much of its life.  

How do you not see the fallacy of it ?

Certain markets 360 could be used as a base line others the wii or even PS2, but guessing what PS4 will do based on what PS3 did is comical.  


because its still a playstation. just a better selling playstation.

it did not magically become a xbox or wii. its still a playstation.

thats the reason it will have a HUGE december, but just "decent" october and november

 

are there any killer apps or bundles for october or november? no

september got the 2 biggest playstation games. destiny and fifa

now we got a dry october (just small release, no big ones. no ac, no batman, no battelfiled) and will see a drop (5 -> 4 weeks is doing the rest)

early november? halo is xbox only and call of duty is still an xbox game and bundle.

 

the rocket starts to take off end of november (lbp, far cry 4 and gtaV remaster) and black firday. the pace will continue until christmas and the week after.

so until the second week of november is over, the ps4 ist still "just" a playstation console...

ps4 sales in december will be bigger than october + november



Ninsect said:
prinz_valium said:
Ninsect said:

1.2m in October, 2.3m in November, 3.3m in December?? That's 6.8m! 


300k each week in oct?

no way. lets go with 250k = 1m

ps3 best october was 1.1m (after slim model release in september)

 

100% oct - nov bump? at MAX. ps3 never did that. it was always 9x%

 

1m oct

1.8 - 1.9m nov

3m dec

 

that would still be below 6m

 

 

 

i would go for 800k oct, 1.5m nov and 3m dec --> 5.3m

300k average, yes. Some weeks higher, some lower. It's currently being undertracked.

Haven't you learned by now that PS4 is no PS3? PS4 will have a huge BF and November in the world in general will be huge due to its #1 hot status.

Well, you're always pessimistic about PS4 so there's nothing to do but wait for you.


ps4 is at 1.25m for september

what do think how much it is undertracked?

1.5m for september (could be possible)

2m? ofc not

 

1.5m september would give an average of 300k a week

september got destiny and fifa 15 release

 

so why should october be at the same pace and not drop without any big new games or bundles?

300k each weak for october ist just a NO WAY

 

 

p.s:

wii biggest october were 1.6m and 1.5m in its second and third year

no u predict a 1.2m october for ps4 first year? comon



prinz_valium said:
Aphelion said:
prinz_valium said:




300k each week in oct?

no way. lets go with 250k = 1m

ps3 best october was 1.1m (after slim model release in september)

 

100% oct - nov bump? at MAX. ps3 never did that. it was always 9x%

 

1m oct

1.8 - 1.9m nov

3m dec

 

that would still be below 6m

 

 

 

i would go for 800k oct, 1.5m nov and 3m dec --> 5.3m


Iv seen this before from you and you really go to get it through your head that the PS3 and PS4 are two different beasts in way different market positions.  You are basing your estimate for a world wide gaming console market leader, that means leding in EVERY market.  To a 3rd place loser for much of its life.  

How do you not see the fallacy of it ?

Certain markets 360 could be used as a base line others the wii or even PS2, but guessing what PS4 will do based on what PS3 did is comical.  


because its still a playstation. just a better selling playstation.

it did not magically become a xbox or wii. its still a playstation.

thats the reason it will have a HUGE december, but just "decent" october and november

 

are there any killer apps or bundles for october or november? no

september got the 2 biggest playstation games. destiny and fifa

now we got a dry october (just small release, no big ones. no ac, no batman, no battelfiled) and will see a drop (5 -> 4 weeks is doing the rest)

early november? halo is xbox only and call of duty is still an xbox game and bundle.

 

the rocket starts to take off end of november (lbp, far cry 4 and gtaV remaster) and black firday. the pace will continue until christmas and the week after.

so until the second week of november is over, the ps4 ist still "just" a playstation console...

ps4 sales in december will probably be bigger than october + november

PS xbox wii does not matter, market leader is just that.  But ohh well, its ok.


Neither here or there, im just gonna quote this for future reference and lols.  Ill bump it soon enough. 



Aphelion said:
prinz_valium said:
Aphelion said:
prinz_valium said:




300k each week in oct?

no way. lets go with 250k = 1m

ps3 best october was 1.1m (after slim model release in september)

 

100% oct - nov bump? at MAX. ps3 never did that. it was always 9x%

 

1m oct

1.8 - 1.9m nov

3m dec

 

that would still be below 6m

 

 

 

i would go for 800k oct, 1.5m nov and 3m dec --> 5.3m


Iv seen this before from you and you really go to get it through your head that the PS3 and PS4 are two different beasts in way different market positions.  You are basing your estimate for a world wide gaming console market leader, that means leding in EVERY market.  To a 3rd place loser for much of its life.  

How do you not see the fallacy of it ?

Certain markets 360 could be used as a base line others the wii or even PS2, but guessing what PS4 will do based on what PS3 did is comical.  


because its still a playstation. just a better selling playstation.

it did not magically become a xbox or wii. its still a playstation.

thats the reason it will have a HUGE december, but just "decent" october and november

 

are there any killer apps or bundles for october or november? no

september got the 2 biggest playstation games. destiny and fifa

now we got a dry october (just small release, no big ones. no ac, no batman, no battelfiled) and will see a drop (5 -> 4 weeks is doing the rest)

early november? halo is xbox only and call of duty is still an xbox game and bundle.

 

the rocket starts to take off end of november (lbp, far cry 4 and gtaV remaster) and black firday. the pace will continue until christmas and the week after.

so until the second week of november is over, the ps4 ist still "just" a playstation console...

ps4 sales in december will probably be bigger than october + november

PS xbox wii does not matter, market leader is just that.  But ohh well, its ok.


Neither here or there, im just gonna quote this for future reference and lols.  Ill bump it soon enough. 


it doenst matter? why sold xbox different in holidays beside wii was the market leader?

why sold xbox better in holidays beside ps3 was the "maket leader" (ps3 always sold more each year than xbox 360. x360 was just the "market leader" because of the year head start

 

and ps3 always sold better everywhere beside us and uk.

so the only thing, that would make a diffence now is us sales.

and if we talk about woldwide behaviour it would no make that much of a huge diffent.

 

its all about xbox, wii and playstation.

its not about market leader.

market leader is only impoartant if we talk about flat and obverall number. but not if we talk about seasonal % changes in sales