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Mr Puggsly said:
ethomaz said:
Mr Puggsly said:
ethomaz said:

It is good to have an improvement.

900p will make the snipe user life better compared with Ghosts.


Snipers did fine even on sub-720p 7th gen.

I through we are in the 8th gen... we need better gameplay than 7th gen... Snipe was really bad in Ghosts compared with PS4 version.

Going from a pretty sharp resolution to a sharper resolution doesn't have a significant impact on gameplay.

I haven't heard anyone say CoD:Ghosts has great gameplay on PS4 because of the resolution.

In fact, we've been seeing sequels scoring less than predecessors in spite of the resolution boost. Hence, the resolution boost doesn't mean much in regard to gameplay.

Resolution and Framerate(Stable) are always good for the gameplay of FPSes, especially Snipers. Specifically, Resolution helps detail a farther FOV assuming draw distance is that far as well. With 720 vs 1080, you just can't physically display farther objects. Translation: Resolution allows a sniper to see farther. And I don't have to explain how framerate is important.

Pretty much why PC is the definitive platform for FPSes, resolution is generally easier to scale than say, level architecture, and don't get me started on KB&M. 

Unfortunately, resolution is tied to graphical detail, in ways that framerate is not, and that takes up power as well i.e 1080p with 720p textures are more or less showing the same amount of detail as 720p with 720p textures, with the 1080p having an advantage of being able to display more things, but the gain would be miniscule compared to the wasted power. Truly a Catch 22.

Just because you didn't here anyone complain doesn't mean that it doesn't significantly improve it.

And if the sequels are scoring less maybe its because people have been playing the same game for the past decade, just because Reso and FPS are improving doesn't mean its going to make up for everything else that makes ghosts inferior to MW2 and not even hold a candle to MW.



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CGI-Quality said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Nobody has "hated" at all. Stop looking for something that isn't there. In regards to "taking the US back", COD will have little to no impact on that.

OT: Well, an improvement, is an improvement. At least they're keeping 60fps there. To COD players, that's what matters.

1 game at a time will make the difference.

In other words, you expect multiplatform games in the US to have bigger unit bumps for the X1 than the PS4? How is that supposed to happen?

Wishful thinking.



Mr Puggsly said:

Going from a pretty sharp resolution to a sharper resolution doesn't have a significant impact on gameplay.

I haven't heard anyone say CoD:Ghosts has great gameplay on PS4 because of the resolution.

In fact, we've been seeing sequels scoring less than predecessors in spite of the resolution boost. Hence, the resolution boost doesn't mean much in regard to gameplay.

Yeah I don't get his point. Sniping sucked in Ghost because of the spawns and shitty maps for sniping... not the resolution. The resolution makes little difference at all, especially a small boost like that.

All Ghillied Up was incredible and it was like 600p or some bullshit.



Funny how SOME Xbox 1 fanboys were saying 900P vs 1080P is hardly discernible but when a game like Killer Instinct and/or COD: AW goes from 720P to 900P it is "it looks so much better!!". This goes especially for Killer Instinct because the improvement for COD occurred over two games where Killer Instinct is was bumped up. There is a bigger difference from 900P to 1080P than there is going from 720P to 900P.

 

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Guitarguy said:

Funny how SOME Xbox 1 fanboys were saying 900P vs 1080P is hardly discernible but when a game like Killer Instinct and/or COD: AW goes from 720P to 900P it is "it looks so much better!!". This goes especially for Killer Instinct because the improvement for COD occurred over two games where Killer Instinct is was bumped up. There is a bigger difference from 900P to 1080P than there is going from 720P to 900P.

So you're saying fanboys say funny things. Wow. Should have made a thread for this revelation.



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CoD finally looks fun again. Ghosts was so damn bad.



deadbigfoot21- 1 game at a time will make the difference.


ya but,its literally just one game,like legit just 1 multiplat game selling(as expected actually) better than ps4 in america... and it probably wont be by that much or not enough to make a dent in the ground ps4 is gaining each and every week.... and i bet multiplat games are probably more responsible for selling more consoles than exclusives since theres a hell of a lot more of em,and with 99.9% of multiplat games selling better on ps4 in the usa,theres very very very little chance of xone catching/surpassing the ps4.....there no trend supporting your prediction... it just needs to sell well,not catch the ps4



LudicrousSpeed said:
Guitarguy said:

Funny how SOME Xbox 1 fanboys were saying 900P vs 1080P is hardly discernible but when a game like Killer Instinct and/or COD: AW goes from 720P to 900P it is "it looks so much better!!". This goes especially for Killer Instinct because the improvement for COD occurred over two games where Killer Instinct is was bumped up. There is a bigger difference from 900P to 1080P than there is going from 720P to 900P.

So you're saying fanboys say funny things. Wow. Should have made a thread for this revelation.


I'll pass on that suggestion.



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Resolution and Framerate(Stable) are always good for the gameplay of FPSes, especially Snipers. Specifically, Resolution helps detail a farther FOV assuming draw distance is that far as well. With 720 vs 1080, you just can't physically display farther objects. Translation: Resolution allows a sniper to see farther. And I don't have to explain how framerate is important.

Pretty much why PC is the definitive platform for FPSes, resolution is generally easier to scale than say, level architecture, and don't get me started on KB&M. 

Unfortunately, resolution is tied to graphical detail, in ways that framerate is not, and that takes up power as well i.e 1080p with 720p textures are more or less showing the same amount of detail as 720p with 720p textures, with the 1080p having an advantage of being able to display more things, but the gain would be miniscule compared to the wasted power. Truly a Catch 22.

Just because you didn't here anyone complain doesn't mean that it doesn't significantly improve it.

And if the sequels are scoring less maybe its because people have been playing the same game for the past decade, just because Reso and FPS are improving doesn't mean its going to make up for everything else that makes ghosts inferior to MW2 and not even hold a candle to MW.

I believe a stable frame rate and screen tear has more impact on gameplay than the disaprity of 720p, 900p, or 1080p.

You're giving me rhetoric because in practice the resolution bump is having little impact on gameplay. You just feel it is.

Now moving from 480p to 720p was huge, because the blurriness of 480p is very perceptible in gaming even to the average person. When playing a modern PC game in 480p it becomes a blurry jaggy mess. However, 720p, 900p and 1080p are basically sharp, sharper, and even sharper. Neither is considered blurry to the average person or has a signfiicant impact on gameplay. If I can see an enemy afar in 1080p, safe bet I'll see that same enemy in 720p.



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CGI-Quality said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Nobody has "hated" at all. Stop looking for something that isn't there. In regards to "taking the US back", COD will have little to no impact on that.

OT: Well, an improvement, is an improvement. At least they're keeping 60fps there. To COD players, that's what matters.

1 game at a time will make the difference.

In other words, you expect multiplatform games in the US to have bigger unit bumps for the X1 than the PS4? How is that supposed to happen?

Don't take him seriously. Xbox fans are delusional,  grasping for any straws possible these days. 

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