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torok on 07 October 2014
QuintonMcLeod said:

I've provided links. Just go back and check them out.


No single benchmark proves your point and nobody here is agreeing with your nonsense. You just want to downplay the PS4 moved by your personal preferences.



Bet with jetforcejiminy: PS4 will pass the Wii lifetime numbers.

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Kane1389 on 07 October 2014
QuintonMcLeod said:
the-pi-guy said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Kane1389 said:

Can you find me a PC that blows PS4 out of the way or 400$ ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46XRjQFHjr4

That doesn't beat PS4.


Replace the GPU with this for an additional $20 bucks. Brings the PC to $400 bucks even.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202096

That GPU outperforms the PS4.


EDIT: It seems multiple users called you out on your nonsense, never mind



QuintonMcLeod on 07 October 2014
the-pi-guy said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

I gave you a few links now to back up the stuff I've been saying. You got anything to back up some of these claims you have?

 

On paper.  

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/20377/article/xbox-one-vs-ps4-amd-outs-console-like-gpus/

It seems that the PS4-like R7-265 offers solid performance given its low price point and may be worth paying a little extra for over the Xbox One-similar R7-260

http://www.kdramastars.com/articles/34474/20140825/pc-vs-console.htm

With the PS4's GPU capabilities closer to a Radeon HD 7870,

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/130221a_e.html

1.843 TFLOPS.  

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2558/radeon-r7-265.html

1843 GFLOPS = 1.843 TFLOPS.

 

 

Now, consider all the factors that affect performance, CPU, RAM, GPU, and the developer also affects performance.  

Even with all the other 3 factors identical, the developer will affect performance.  

The consoles have weak CPUs, but pretty good RAM.  So even if the GPU is pretty much identical, it can still be held back by the CPU and like I said the developer.  Compare the best looking game released in the first year, to the best looking game on the last year.  There's always a gigantic improvement.  This is because of updates, and the developers becoming more familiar with the hardware.  

You're right. I made a mistake then and I apologize.... Thanks for providing sources!

So, here's this GPU instead: R9-270x
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161442&cm_re=r7_270x-_-14-161-442-_-Product

It's the same price, which keeps that build at $400 bucks, and it out performs the PS4.



QuintonMcLeod on 07 October 2014
the-pi-guy said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
the-pi-guy said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYG-7T2LVDc

It's the devs fault in that case.  PS4 should be 900p60 from the specs. 


So, you show a game that's poorly optimized and runs like crap on the PC? Now you're just grasping for straws. You might as well just give up now.

It's the same game from your link.  


But it wasn't that game I was trying to showcase to you. It was the fact that the PS4 can barely outperform older GPUs. Watchdog's is still a terribly unoptimized game.



QuintonMcLeod on 07 October 2014
Kane1389 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
the-pi-guy said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Kane1389 said:

Can you find me a PC that blows PS4 out of the way or 400$ ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46XRjQFHjr4

That doesn't beat PS4.


Replace the GPU with this for an additional $20 bucks. Brings the PC to $400 bucks even.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202096

That GPU outperforms the PS4.


EDIT: It seems multiple users called you out on your nonsense, never mind


You don't think a person can build a PC at the same price of a PS4 and out perform it? Is that your issue?



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IamAwsome on 07 October 2014

So how did this turn into a topic about PC GPUs?



QuintonMcLeod on 07 October 2014
the-pi-guy said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

But it wasn't that game I was trying to showcase to you. It was the fact that the PS4 can barely outperform older GPUs. Watchdog's is still a terribly unoptimized game.

For consoles and PCs.  

You can't show a benchmark to show how a PC, and PS4 perform.  There's a lot of different factors on the hardware side and development side that can greatly skew these results.  You could show 10 benchmarks that show that video card A beats out video card B, but I could show the opposite.  It gets complicated when comparing consoles vs PCs especially.  You could make an exactly identical PC as a console, and yet the console will outperform the console due to console specific optimizations that no one is going to work into a PC title.  

A while ago, John Carmack suggested that the difference could amount to double. John Carmack is literally a rocket scientist and is famous for what he did for 3D graphics.   Basically make a PS4 equivalent PC, and make a game that runs at 30 fps, the PS4 would run it at 60 fps.  


John Carmack also said the next-gen would only see 720p/30fps which isn't the case.

And we can look at how the PS4 is only doing 1080p/30fps in most games. Meanwhile, the 270x can do 1080p/60fps inside a PC at the same price. Plus, the PC will save you money in the long run since PC games are much cheaper than console games.



hinch on 07 October 2014
IamAwsome said:

So how did this turn into a topic about PC GPUs?

And now consoles vs PC's lol.



Kane1389 on 07 October 2014
QuintonMcLeod said:
Kane1389 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
the-pi-guy said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Kane1389 said:

Can you find me a PC that blows PS4 out of the way or 400$ ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46XRjQFHjr4

That doesn't beat PS4.


Replace the GPU with this for an additional $20 bucks. Brings the PC to $400 bucks even.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202096

That GPU outperforms the PS4.


EDIT: It seems multiple users called you out on your nonsense, never mind


You don't think a person can build a PC at the same price of a PS4 and out perform it? Is that your issue?


Of course you cant. Superior RAM (without troublesome OS holding it back) together with a better optimization ( 1.84 Tflops on aconsole are vastly better than 1.84 Tflops on PC, so there goes your GPU comparisson) shit all over 'the PC' you are harping about here.

The ''PC'' in the video you posted doesnt even have a case lol and (quoting the video description) 'it can play games like Titanfall on high settings'. Big whopp, TF's graphicall fidelity is quite underwhelming and the fact that it can only play it on high settings, rather than ultra shows how underwhelimg it is. Especially considering PS4 can run games like Metro Last Light and KZ Shadowfall at 1080p 60fps which are graphically vastly superior to Titanfall



walsufnir on 08 October 2014
the-pi-guy said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYG-7T2LVDc

It's the devs fault in that case.  PS4 should be 900p60 from the specs.  


On which CPU was the benchmark?