what? ofc they are more than 30k

i said 10%, or slightly below, are digital sales

30k woud be 1,7%

its for sure at, or over 150k (8,5%)

but its also likely below 200k (11,2%)

that was a guess. I compared the actual figures in terms of downloads and ratings for mincraft ps3 and watchdogs ps4 and the ratio works out as 1 rating per 30-40 purchases. Infamous second son has sold 1.8 retail so does it sound out of this world if it had 350k digital downloads and 1.8m retail? 

I don't think so. 

Not on the EU store anyway. Are the ratings for games on PSN universal? If not then that throws a spanner in the works. Also are you talking about the star rating or the thumbs up rating? Because I'm  talking about the star rating. 

For people saying this method is not accurate you can get rock solid ratios for games that have announced digital sales. Problem is there aren't many but over time we could make a fairly acurate ratio for AAA games and cheaper games. This is a sales site and people should be helping with this instead of throwing the toys out of the pram. 

Out of this world for a game like infamous second son, yes. Minecraft is the type of game most people would download. Infamous Second son and Destiny, not so much. I'd be willing to bet it more then likely sold around 50-75k digitally. But obviously, I can't prove that. It's just guesses. However, it's very improbable that it sold 250k+ digitally.

Watch dogs has about 350k digital downloads on PS4. I don't think it's out of this world to suggested a much better received game that had no resolution/downgrade saga controversy had a digital attach ration a bit higher. 

Honestly you thinking Second Son only has around 60k downloads is crazy. I just checked the EU psn store and for the regular edition 49.9k people have given it a thumbs up rating. Another 1.3k gave the legendary edition a thumbs up. SO you're trying to tell me about 90% of buyers gave it a thumbs up? 

Come on you know that's wildly innacurate. As I said that game has likely about 300k downloads and my evidence suggest so.

Also I agree that destiny will have a low ratio. A lot of destiny buyers got it with the PS4 bundle and it got a lot of stick so I reckon a lot of people got it from the stores. Most people only download games they know are good. Plus the game has less ratings than the likes of infamous on the store which have sold less retail than it. 

Well last time I was on my ps4, I gave a few games a thumbs up and I had not purchased it digitally (I think it was a rating, if not then ignore this). 

But honnestly, it's useless to argue this without any facts to back anything up. I think that you're severely overestimating digital sales on consoles. 

what i'm about to tell you is fact. you can't rate a game unless you buy it. you can't even see the thumbs up for games unless you buy it let alone give it a thumbs up. My whole discussion has been in relation to the star ratingsa not the thumbs up but I was just pointing out that over 50k people who bought infamous digitally gave it a thumbs up. I highly doubt 1 in 4 people even bothered doing that. Seriously doesn't take a genius to work out it had decent digital sales. 

Which thumbs up are you talking about? If you're talking about giving a "like" to a certain game, then no, you do not need to own it digitally in order to give it a like as I've given thumbs up to nhl 15 and destiny by simply owning digital copies of those games.

And whatever, if it's what makes you happy, then go on and believe that Infamous Second Son sold 500k+ copies digitally and that Destiny already sold 300k+ copies digitally. 

Even if you combine the ratings the total is  higher than 50k. LOL. Indeed that is just a guess. Wrong, sure, but it is a guess.

Ok, so you think the actual sales are closer to 75k or 500k?