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Forums - Nintendo - Both 3DS And Wii U Are Performing Poorly In The US. What Can Be Done?

fluky-nintendy on 14 September 2014

Why can't Nintendo realize that today's kids, born from young parents, will inherit their tastes, including an appetite for good looking HD games, deeply developed stories and a lot of action? Ninty is still so early 90ies even today and they aren't moving a finger to adapt to the new days. They'll become more and more niche and eventually disappear, if they don't change their philosophy.



...Let the Sony Domination continue with the PS4...
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zorg1000 on 14 September 2014
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
its funny when people say wait for holidays, the fact that we have to wait for holidays to see decent sales just proves the OP's point


it really needed a big game for the summer, had Smash not been delayed then we would probably see pretty strong August/September but now they are gonna be some of the worst months ever for 3DS.

interesting, PS4 seemed to be doing fine in the summer. Dont recall a big game releasing in June/July/August


well June isnt Summer but if u want to count that, Watch Dogs released in the last week of May which was still moving units into June. UFC also released in June.

July had Last of Us Remastered and August had Madden and Diablo III.


Well it is.  starts the 21st but i guess that isnt enough time but my point still stands. Watchdogs released in May which drives my point home even more, thats spring. Mario Kart also released in May is the effect over already? None of those games are console movers. We got essentially sports and two ports. Granted that is better than what Wii U got, but I cant see how those were able to keep PS4 from dropping to the levels of the other two. Has to be other factors for that and other factors why Wii U didnt do better. Than just games


why ar u talking about Wii U? the post u quoted me on is talking about 3DS



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ninjaman003 on 17 September 2014
fluky-nintendy said:
Why can't Nintendo realize that today's kids, born from young parents, will inherit their tastes, including an appetite for good looking HD games, deeply developed stories and a lot of action? Ninty is still so early 90ies even today and they aren't moving a finger to adapt to the new days. They'll become more and more niche and eventually disappear, if they don't change their philosophy.

From the underlined part of your name, I would have thought you were a Nintendo fan. Confusing name.



fluky-nintendy on 18 September 2014
ninjaman003 said:
fluky-nintendy said:
Why can't Nintendo realize that today's kids, born from young parents, will inherit their tastes, including an appetite for good looking HD games, deeply developed stories and a lot of action? Ninty is still so early 90ies even today and they aren't moving a finger to adapt to the new days. They'll become more and more niche and eventually disappear, if they don't change their philosophy.

From the underlined part of your name, I would have thought you were a Nintendo fan. Confusing name.

I provided a point that the most fanatic fanboy could also consider being true because it's what is happening at a fast pace. Not only this, because there are colorful games too that mimic Nintendo most well known franchises and are F2P on Smartphones. If Nintendo do not evolve in some way or another, the bold part will inevitibly happen one day.



...Let the Sony Domination continue with the PS4...
ninjaman003 on 18 September 2014
fluky-nintendy said:
ninjaman003 said:
fluky-nintendy said:
Why can't Nintendo realize that today's kids, born from young parents, will inherit their tastes, including an appetite for good looking HD games, deeply developed stories and a lot of action? Ninty is still so early 90ies even today and they aren't moving a finger to adapt to the new days. They'll become more and more niche and eventually disappear, if they don't change their philosophy.

From the underlined part of your name, I would have thought you were a Nintendo fan. Confusing name.

I provided a point that the most fanatic fanboy could also consider being true because it's what is happening at a fast pace. Not only this, because there are colorful games too that mimic Nintendo most well known franchises and are F2P on Smartphones. If Nintendo do not evolve in some way or another, the bold part will inevitibly happen one day.

Maybe, they are becoming fairly niche anyway. This isn't the first time I've seen you say something negative about Nintendo though, in fact I don't remember having seen you say something positive. Also do you own a Wii U?



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yvanjean on 18 September 2014
Soundwave said:

 

This is kind of a unique first in Nintendo's gaming history, for the first time both their handheld and console divisions are not doing very well in the big US market. During the GCN/GBA days, the GCN never sold as low as the Wii U and the GBA was performing great until Nintendo had to start phasing it out in favor of the DS. 

The 3DS is sputtering now to 20k-ish weeks after a dissapointing holiday season last year (even with Pokemon X/Y and Zelda: LBW), one that was apparently (according to Iwata anyway) their worst holiday season in North America in a long time. 

The Wii U continues to sell horribly, even though the baseline is up this year, it's still far short of what the GameCube was selling even post Mario Kart 8. Case in point the GameCube sold 100k for August 2003, while the Wii U in the post MK8 honeymoon sold 59k for August 14. The Wii U has only beaten the GameCube in monthly sales once over a period of like 24+ months. 

Why is the US market so cold on Nintendo? Certainly they haven't invest a lot in Western development. Certainly the casual boom has been co-opted away from them by Apple/Android devices. It seems like the tablet boom has also stabbed them through the heart with the kids market as well. 

This may well be the biggest challenge Nintendo has ever faced in the gaming business. 

Price cut would help.... lack of quality software is the biggest problem. 

People pick hardware with games.... doesn't help that Nintendo hasn't release anything big since Mario Kart... Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta are not system sellers.

Super Smash Wii U, Price cut, Wii U Bundles and Holiday will make this the best Holiday season for Wii U... Nintendo has a pretty good backlog now on WiiU for new owner.... and the Super Smash Hype will generate hardware sales.

I think we must simply face the fact that WiiU will not do as good and will have a hard time getting to Gamecube numbers.  The game pad is simply not innovative enough and there no game that make it a killer add-on. Nintendo needs a $199 Mario Kart WIIU bundle, then they trully got a casual friendly price point.

I wouldn't be suprise if you saw a $199 Nintendo White WiiU skylanders bundle and the main bundles @ $249.99. 



Ljink96 on 18 September 2014

3DS:

It'll be just fine, wait for Smash and Pokemon RS remakes.

Wii U:

Nintendo's best bet is to tough it out this gen. Do the best that they can do and then blow us away next gen. They need to get as much support as possible and that is dependent on the success of Smash and Zelda from here on out. The Wii U just got a bad wrap this gen. It is a really neat piece of hardware that is hard to understand.



Zadainie on 18 September 2014

Nothing will, I had to say it. :/



Seece on 18 September 2014

Nothing they can do, WiiU will end up with 1/3 the userbase of last place PS3 there (9m~) and even that isn't set in stone. In fact it could be 1/4 (7m~)



 

KLAMarine on 18 September 2014

3ds sales down isn't much of a surprise. The new 3ds is coming so many people are thinking twice before buying an old model. Also, Apple is throwing its hat into the industry so there's increased competition. As for WiiU, the recent release of Destiny has grabbed headlines so X1 and PS4 are of course the consoles to buy.

And like another user said, games games games.