Iamdavirus said:
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190k is weak, PS4's sales this entire summer in general have been weak. If you disagree fine, not everyone agrees with you. These are soft sales IMO.
The PS3's first August was 130k at $500 (that'd be close to $600 with inflation today) and it was up against far more competetion and PS3 was ridiculed for that level of sales.
CosmicSex said:
Seeing as all markets are considered when looking at global benchmarks, it is factious to delve into individual countries because the only result of an aligned launch is more sales at a certain period of time. Grasping isn't even the word. For example, they says "Face it! For a market leader the PS4 is underperforming and nothing will change that according to the data". This means that to there is no situation in which they will admit the PS4 is doing well let alone exceptional. You can't argue with someone who refuses to acknowledge data while presenting nothing objectively. You: PS4 is the fastest selling console in history. Them: The PS4 is underperforming and nothing will change that because of this arbitrary fact that doesn't change that its the fastest selling console in history. |
Exactly.
fatslob-:O said:
We already know that a market leader is supposed to be leading the race ... However, no one can deny it's lack luster performance so far compared to the previous leaders. Go ask yourself this ... Whatever happened to comparing performance against previous leaders ? This is already the fourth time that the PS4 has went below 250K for a month in North America ... |
The problem is that the market environments the PS2 and PS4 were released in are very disimilar. It's easy to just put the numbers side by side, compare them, and call it a day. However, the context of those numbers are hugely different.
Also, no two consoles have the same sales pattern, giving another reason why you can't just compare numbers side by side. Each console's journey is different and it's quite obvious that the PS4 is taking a different path from the PS2. Games are much more expensive to make nowadays in comparison to the early 2000s. As a result, Sony's current strategy is vastly different from its strategy back then. Consequently, this also affects their target audience. As a result, you can't make a conclusion from just a temporary dip in sales. You need to look at the whole picture.
fatslob-:O said:
We already know that a market leader is supposed to be leading the race ... However, no one can deny it's lack luster performance so far compared to the previous leaders. Go ask yourself this ... Whatever happened to comparing performance against previous leaders ? This is already the fourth time that the PS4 has went below 250K for a month in North America ... |
booo hooo it went under 250k, and that means what exactly ?
Well its kinda pointless given you lack of overall numbers to make any legitamate comparision, whatever its losing in NA it might be making up elsewhere. Given its great world wide sales.
Soundwave said:
190k is weak, PS4's sales this entire summer in general have been weak. If you disagree fine, not everyone agrees with you. These are soft sales. The PS3's first August was 130k at $500 (that'd be close to $600 with inflation today) and it was up against far more competetion and PS3 was ridiculed for that level of sales. |
Again.////////August was 190k because PS4 hit past 10 million so fast...I ask again how does 1 month negate a whole year of great sales?? And being the second fastest to hit 10 million? If ps3 had millions more stock it's august would have been below 100k that month.
ps3 was supply constrained ps4 was not...........................ps3 was at how many million less???? Your argumants are one sided and wrong.
| fatslob-:O said: I am going to be real here ... The PS4 isn't exactly what I envisioned it's performance to be since it's falling below expectations of how a market leader should be performing. Sub 250K in North America for some months isn't "ideal" for a leading console. Perhaps just accomplishing the right moves isn't enough to muster up to the standards. Sony is going to need to do something about this ... |
I think the sale paterns have change because of last gen, instead of seeing console peak at the 3 or 4 year mark we will see them peak on year 5 or 6 I fully expect that for the ps4 and X1 ( that's why the ps4 will stay on the lower part of the curve a bit longer than the ps2 but come years 5 and 6 it should be doing better comparatively ofcourse ( not saying the ps4 is gong to outsell the ps2)). Also times have changed, why buy your console during the summer when you can wait a few more months and take advantage of the crasy black friday, cyber monday deals or even boxing day deals. Yes i know those sales were there back in the ps2 era but back then retailers were not as agressive with their prices and boxing day was actualy just one day not a whole week or month
Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.
fatslob-:O said:
Apparently you didn't read my other posts ... This isn't the first time that this has happened. This happened 3 other times! How many more excuses are you going to keep bringing up about the PS4's underperforming months ? |
How many more timea are you going to ignore the facts?? 1 month does not negate the total sales. You keep focusing on the 1 month to spin your argument, ignorng all the sales data..........
Iamdavirus said:
ps3 was supply constrained ps4 was not...........................ps3 was at how many million less???? Your argumants are one sided and wrong. |
PS4 hasn't sold that great for a while now, since the honeymoon period of its launch wore off, it's been wishy washy for a while. It's doing well in the context that everything else is selling like dog sh*t though. August is just more of the norm, of course they will get a large bump next month because of the Destiny bundle.
Aura7541 said:
The problem is that the market environments the PS2 and PS4 were released in are very disimilar. It's easy to just put the numbers side by side, compare them, and call it a day. However, the context of those numbers are hugely different. Also, no two consoles have the same sales pattern, giving another reason why you can't just compare numbers side by side. Each console's journey is different and it's quite obvious that the PS4 is taking a different path from the PS2. Games are much more expensive to make nowadays in comparison to the early 2000s. As a result, Sony's current strategy is vastly different from its strategy back then. Consequently, this also affects their target audience. As a result, you can't make a conclusion from just a temporary dip in sales. You need to look at the whole picture. |
I said that first! You owe me a nickel! Pay meeee! =O Well said regardless. =D
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Zanten said:
I said that first! You owe me a nickel! Pay meeee! =O Well said regardless. =D |
Oh... well then. Great minds think alike? 
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