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LivingMetal on 08 September 2014
Jereel Hunter said:
spurgeonryan said:

Disclaimer! IF you cannot talk like a decent human being here, do not even post. Which basically means not racism, or bigotry or whatever else that is not acceptable. In this day and age we need to be able to talk about the hard matters to finally get past all of it or we will never advance properly as a society. Sure, science will always advance, the rich will get richer, so on and so forth. But what about the poor. Racism is still a part of their life I think, as we have seen in other news today. Religon is also a part of many lives.

Supposedly, God was so mad that humans became so smart and full of themselves when they were building this Tower called Babel, that he dispersed the population all over the world. Different languages, races, etc. From what I remember in Bible Studies.

Also, it is written somewhere that Religous people are not supposed to be "Gay " ( not trying to be disrespectful for saying this).

So I am assuming, that the only reason any government ever even outlawed same sexes from marrying is because of religous reasons. We pretty much know this.

Can we assume the same for racial problems as well? And if so, then why is one allowed by most Christian Based religions and not the other?

Homosexuality is specifically condemned in the Bible, pretty clearly, on more than one occasion. However, in the Bible noone is ever commanded to hate gays, or treat them poorly. The activity is comdemned (like fornication, lying, etc) but  people who go beyond that and show hatred to gays aren't acting in a christian manner. Now as far as interracial marriages, they weren't comdemned in the Bible. People were warned, on occasion, against marrying foreigners, but this was on the basis of marrying someone of a different faith, not race. 

So in short, racial problems are due to people being awful to one another, not religion. Through all eras, those who truly embraced Christian morals would not have looked down on other races. 


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tak13 on 08 September 2014
The_Sony_Girl1 said:
It's not because of religion in my opinion, but because lots of gay people try to try to turn straight people gay. Many politicians are jerks anyway.


oh my gosh...!how?you are borning homosexual/hetersosexual...so heterosexual cannot turn into homosexual or homosexual into heterosexual!if a straight guy is being stimulated with women,this will not change...so noone tries what you are denouncing,because is unfeasible...!



ice on 08 September 2014
Ka-pi96 said:
Isn't most of it due to the fact that a gay relationship can't produce children though?


Yes, so I guess straight couples that can't produce are in the same boat.



Blouge on 08 September 2014

(deleting) Sorry I deleted a comment that wasn't helpful



LivingMetal on 08 September 2014
Blouge said:
QuintonMcLeod said:


I whole-heartedly agree with this.

I was actually going to reply with something similar to this, but someone beat me to it.

I've noticed a lot of atheists tend to base reglion from the people who follow it instead of what the religion actually promotes. From there, they formulate their own conclusions, and this is very sad. We're living in a world where ignorance is encouraged.


Do you follow what the religion promotes? I.e., do you abstain from eating shellfish or wearing clothing made of two different kinds of thread? I've noticed a lot of religious people pick pieces of their religion, especially the hateful parts, but don't actually embrace what their own texts say.


Do you understand its context and principle for its time?



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Blouge on 08 September 2014

"Homosexuality is specifically condemned in the Bible, pretty clearly, on more than one occasion. However, in the Bible noone is ever commanded to hate gays, or treat them poorly. "

The bible commands that one stone adulterers to death.

Does anyone actually follow what it commands? Nope. If religious people don't actually follow the bible, then there's not much point in talking about the bible. One should judge religious people by their actual beliefs and actions instead.



Blouge on 08 September 2014

"Do you understand its context and principle for its time?"

Nope. I see the bible and what it says. Is there some other text I'm missing?
E.g., one that elucidates which parts to believe in and which not to?



Scisca on 08 September 2014

Cause there are smoking hot chicks of all races, why limit yourself?



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Blouge on 08 September 2014

>Homosexuality is specifically condemned in the Bible, pretty clearly, on more than one occasion.

So when it's about condeming homosexuality, you believe in the whole bible, but when it's about eating shellfish, you only believe in pieces of the bible.

Got it.



QuintonMcLeod on 08 September 2014
Blouge said:

(deleting) Sorry I deleted a comment that wasn't helpful


I remember what you said, and I'll reply anyway.

I'd first research the religion before I judge it. Concluding that religions create certain types of people without first understanding the religion(s) in question speaks ignornace. There's no religion that promotes terrorism, racism or any other form of hate and violence. People who practice these harmful things use religion as a catalyst to justify the things they do or want done.

There are many atheists who believe that religion gives way to more violence and hate, but in reality, it's the people who use religion as tools for more violence and more hate.