The consumers that would follow gaming news so closesly as to know to wait until XXX releases, might describe general gaming consumers but not general consumers/the mainstream. 

As for the Wii being sold because of Wii Sports, none of its later iterations even come close to the original. There's no way to prove if its the case. 

So at its best, your reasoning is as good as mine.

However, since I recognize value perception is completely subjective, I call it a part and not the whole because there is no way to know the general consensus of who prefers what in these kinds of purchases. Sure you can speculate, but if the companies in charge shared your sentiments the consoles we have today would merely be n64's with higher fidelity.

Something like Freinds or Xbox live doesn't qualify as software that's readily avaliable, but they are undoubtedly reasons many people buy consoles.

They did with the Xbox, but not the Xbox One.

I remember Microsoft saying something like the Kinect can't be removed or it was an integral part of Xbox One. How would people know they were going to remove it after a few months?

I think OP actually has a legitimate point. I mean come on, anyone who backed the XB1 from the very inception must have felt betrayed at some point. The DRM reversals, the kinect reversal, the price-meandering.

Why can't we have this discussion? People who backed the XB1 at 500 dollars backed the wrong horse. No sign of a PS4 price cut any time soon, XB1 at holidays though....that's a different story.

I'm so glad I switched this gen.

That's always a risk when buying a new product at launch, look at the games themselves. An informed consumer should know these things.

We've been over this for a couple of months now.

And yet you continue to post.

you've lost all validity when you said " They could announce a $199.99 bundle and PS4 would still outsell it, IMO"... you're saying a $199.99 Xbox one console couldn't outsell a $399.99 PS4... wow must be fun living in a Sony fantasy world.

I bought the TitanFall bundle. I think the Kinect is amazing and add something new to console experience. No regrets whats so ever. 

Early adopter on the other hand got to enjoy the Xbox one over the xmas holidays ... I would say they got their money worth. Which Dev is skipping the Xbox one.... Insomniac who's developping the Xbox exclusive Sunset Overdrive or Crystal dynamix Rise of the tomb raider...

Destiny and Diablo 3 are games that offer over 100 hours of gameplay, adding small exclusive content is simply a perk to PS4 not a reason to skip on the Xbox one version.

I don't need to compare PS4 exclusive to my Xbox one, to put it simply it doesn't matter what's on the PS4 because of the amount of content on Xbox One that is offered to me. I 've never played Last of us and Infamous, the game do look amazing but there is exclusive content on both console. I can tell you that Forza 5, TitanFall & Dead rising 3 are amazing game and you should check them out if you ever get the chance.

Bought Forza 5, Dead Rising 3, Just dance 2014, Ryse: son of rome, Titanfall (bundle) & diablo 3. Games for gold turned out to be a great added bonus and really enjoyed MAx: Curse of the brotherhood, Spartan Assault and Guaccamelee.  EA access is an amazing service IMO .... got me access to NFL 15 and NHL 15. On top of that got to try out Battlefield 4 (played over 70 hours) and Peggle 2(played over 20 hours between my girlfriend and I). As an extra bonus they just release NFS: Rivals this week(downloaded and put it in my backlog if I get to it).

There a backlog of games that I would love to get COD: ghost, Assassin's creed IV, Tomb Raider: definitive edition; watch dogs; Plant vs Zombies & Kinect sports rivals. Let's face it the offering on PS4 is almost 75% identical to the Xbox one. Sure you got last of us and a bunch of indie games, yet somehow I'm still going to play my Xbox one tomorrow and have too much to do with not enough time to play. You're thinking we've over paid compare to PS4 but we do have the Kinect that more than make up for the difference. Kinect enable skype, twitch and games like Just dance 2014 and Xbox Fitness. Browsing the around the xbox interface is actually much faster and better using the Kinect. I wouldn't go as far to say as the Kinect adds value but it is justified. 

Xbox one and PS4 are investment for the next 5 years at least. Of all people you should know that.

What makes you guys think that PS4 is the only viable choice for gamers exactly? Say one person likes games and services provided by MS does that person is better with another provider? MS tried a few things last year and they realised people didn't want those things so they adapted their business to their customers needs. How is that betting on the wrong horse exactly?

I'm not emotionaly attached to these companies so I don't feel betrayed, or loved or anything they're not my friends or potential girlfriend or anything. They want my money, well if they have something I want they'll get that money, it's as simple as that. 

If you don't see value in what they have to offer then why do you need to be convinced they are good? If you see value to what you bought, why would you feel "betrayed"? Emotions towards plastic and corporations... really? We should make a soap out of this.

The xbox one hasn't technically receive a price cut as of today. They've simply added value by providing a game with the console.

Xbox + Kinect since lauch has always sold for $499.99. Since you switch this gen, you haven't really got to experience the new Microsoft console. Ask any one that own both console they will not simply disregard the Xbox One both console are great new technologies and have lots to offer the gamers. Kinect as a game controller is not the ground breaking tech. But the voice control and having a camera is something that will be very useful and welcome in the future of this console. The face recognition and automatic login is already something that it does seamlessly.

While the Xbox one is not out selling the PS4, it did have an amazing releasing and is out pacing the Xbox 360. Why must you bash on the XB1, it's not like you want to justify your PS4. I'm glad that microsoft is trying to spark more interest with bundle and exclusive to bring more gamers to discover their amazing hardware. Enjoy your PS4, because I'm certainly going to be doing the same with my Xbox One.