| Teeqoz said: If we use your numbers, where nintendo makes 80-100% profit on their games now, whilw when third party they would only make ~60% the they would have to sell 1,6 times better to make profit there. which means they'll have to sell 60% more software to make up the lost profit. I'm confident that they could do that. Then there is the fact that they wouldn't have any of the losses from their hardware segment, so that none of their software profit would be used to offset hardware losses. Metroid Prime would do waaaay better on PS3/4 and Xbox 360/One. FPS wasn't as big during the 6th gen as it is now, so during the NGC era it didn't matter as much as it would now. And you just proved our point in your post, despite many being interested in Nintendo games, they're not interested enough to buy Nintendo hardware, but if it was third party then a lot more people would buy their games. Does it matter if the Pro-controller has the same innards as the DS4? I mean, it still feels exactly the same right? And for the NFC thing, there is precedent, it's called Skylanders and Disney infinity, which both are accecories that come from third parties. SEGAs downfall wasn't purely because of them going third party, but also because of their horrible financial situation. The Saturn wasn't as succesful as a lot of people seem to think, and besides the Saturn all their other systems were basically failures that cost them quite a bit of money. If Nintendo goes third-party BEFORE their broke, then they can still fund the development of great titles. FYI SEGA had higher profits than Nintendo last year |
They don't have hardware losses to offset anymore, and hadn't had hardware losses to offset ever before except for this one time where they screwed up with the expensive tech in the 3DS (the 3D) and the WiiU (the streamer). They have to offset hardware gains lost, not hardware losses. They have to sell more software part 1. They have lost all accessory revenue. That's sell more software part 2. You're building off a scenario that no longer exists. They don't have losses to lose, they now only have profits from more than software to lose. That means that their software now has to sell all that much more, and more. And you're incredibly over-estimating many of their IPs. Outside of all of three, they aren't going to sell all that much more than they already do because they are niche. Dark Souls I/II didn't magically explode in sales when it went multiplatform. It gained maybe a million more overall. Top of the line series but its niche like most of Nintendo's software offerings.
I didn't prove your point, I said that people are not that eager to jump on these franchise even with a next-to-nonexistant barrier to entry like the NGC at 99$ at a time when the economy was actually good. That doesn't prove your point, and all you've been doing, time and again, is saying "it will sell better!" without ever actually corroborating this with any measurable or scalable quantities to see if these "waaaayyyy!" better sales will actually offset the now completely gone other forms of income.
If the pro-controller is the exact same thing as the dual-shock, then why would it even be getting sold or bought? Do you seriously think Sony would even allow a competitor on their money stream? Or Microsoft? There is a reason why Sony has locked down their controller hardware options to only accepting the DS controller hardware, thats because they want every penny they can get from it. (Because it millions of dollars in next-to-pure profit and no hardware developer would give that up to a third party club.) The Skylanders is literally the only thing, I was referring to things Nintendo actually sells as peripherals: controllers, controller accesories, and handheld accessories. Those would all literally cease to exist, particularly the handheld ones as there'd be no handhelds.
I know SEGA's profits. You don't need to point them out to me.
