Clearly, the PS4 has more games available on it.  No debate there.

But, if your going to use Metacritic, which is just a compilation of others opinions, you make your point kind of mute. The total is black and white.   The listing of a group of opinions is not a definition in itself. What is the total of games that released a retail release on the PS4/XB1 and their combined ratings? Then you could list a crapload of ports that are only being ported because they were popular on another format.  For the ports, they would mostly have good ratings or they wouldn't have sold well and they wouldn't be ported to begin with.  The numbers are skewed either way.  The only games list that MOST people care about are the system exclusives.  Not the ports or minigames, even though they are nice to have when the gaps between major releases happen(first 18 months of any console launch). 

Nobody will convince me that any significant amount of buyers are getting any of the 3(PS4/XB1/WiiU) 8th gen systems for the indies and ports.  The metacritic scores are mostly meaningless to buyers(look at COD/BF/AC games or Flappy Bird) of games.  Even then, critics score games based on the intent of the game, meaning that they consider that it is a port or indie game and rate it against games of that nature.

If someone doesn't have a cell phone or tablet or PC, then the other games have a lot more value and might actually sell to them.  The problem is, that most people  have one of those three items.  Most of the indies/ports are available that way or have a nearly identical game to it.  There are MILLIONS of games available to those 3 platforms. 

The point of this OP isn't proving anything.  People already know that if they are going to buy a PS4 or XB1, its about the retail games.  Of the retail games, it's only the AAA that really matter.  With that in mind, both systems are very similar.  For this list to make sense, I would have to sell 3 cell phones, 4 computers, 4 tablets in my home before i would start to care for most of the titles for either of the 2 systems.

It's not about the quantity of games. It's about which system has more games you want. Not games there is. Would you rather have 10 ugly women or 3hot women. Replace women with men if you prefer that

Agreed.  Quantity over quality every time...

But, it is also about the new experiences...  The women analogy can apply but it gets kind of weird...

As for the new consoles... When you compare quality of new game experiences none really shine...  Goes back to the Recycle Generation comment... Most indie games released to date are on other platforms. Then, most 3rd party retail games are mostly multiplatform...  In the end there are only a few experiences that you can only get on PS4, XB1, or Wii U... 

I have paid over $2,000 in consoles so far this generation and over $4,000 in games across those consoles... None have made me run out and say, "If you don't buy this console you are crazy".  If I was on the sidelines I would stay on the sidelines at least another year for the inveitable price drops and more new content to arrive.

lol...

10's of thousands of people are following ISIS does that make them right?

People install aesbestos insulation in homes for decades, did that make it right?

Almost everyone thought the earth was flat until about 500 years ago, did that make it right?

Numbers of people buying or believing anything is no measure for quality or success.

Post of the thread right here.

Looks like all their indie courting really payed off. M$ dropped the ball on that front. Big time.

I do enjoy watching the mental gymnastics that go on in this forum to discount every game on the PS4.

I don't really know where you get that from? If someone truely believes this I don't agree with them. Trials HD and Limbo were a big part of why I rebought a 360 in 2010.

Indie games on your console can never be seen as a downside and even though not everyone loves them as much as I do they're great to have between big releases. I was excited to see lots of quality indies being announced for PS4 so I made this thread.

Indie games always mattered and that's why a lot of PS owners spammed the hell out of Sony and indie devs in hope to get certain games released for their console. Especially in the beginning of 7th gen Xbox 360 was the best place to find indies and many PS owners wanted those games on PS as well.

But eventually PS3 did receive an awful lot of great indie games as well you know. Maybe that's why it wasn't as big of a topic as it is now where PS4 without question is the place to go for indie games.

In my opinion only 3 important indie games are missing on the PS3 and that's Bastion, Super Meat Boy and Torchlight. There are more than 3 indie games I would've missed without a PS3. These are just the "indies" I own on the PS3:

Beat Hazard Ultra
Beyond Good and Evil
BIT.TRIP Runner 2
Bomberman ULTRA
Braid
Brothers
Castle Crashers
Castle of Illusion
Child of Light
Costume Quest
Crazy Taxi
Datura
Daytona USA
Dead Nation
DOOM 1+2
Ducktales: Remastered
Fat Princess
FEZ
Flow
Flower
From Dust
Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams
Guacamelee!
Hotline Miami
Hydrophobia: Prophecy
Jet Set Radio
Joe Danger 1+2
Journey
Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light
Limbo
Luftrausers
Machinarium
Max and the Magic Marker
Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes
Minecraft
Oddworld: Stranger Boxx
Outland
Pac-Man Museum
PixelJunk Shooter+Monsters
Plants vs. Zombies
Quantum Conundrum
Retro City Rampage
Scott Pilgrim
Serious Sam 3
Shank 1+2
Shatter
Sideway: New York
Sine Mora
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1+2
Sound Shapes
Spelunky
Sportsfriends
Stacking
Stealth Inc: A Clone in the Dark
Strider
Super Stardust HD
Tales from Space: About a Blob
Terraria
The Cave
The Unfinished Swan
The Walking Dead
The Wolf Among Us
Thomas Was Alone
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater HD
TowerFall Ascension
Trine 1+2
Urban Trial: Freestyle
Where is my Heart?
Worms Revolution

Well, i see they both have games but some retail/digital multiplatform is a shovelware that came from PC/Xbox 360/PS3.

Well I don't know about you but I CAN'T WAIT to play Halo Channel. That's my game of the generation son.