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crissindahouse said:

Yeah and Xbox 360 had probably some thousand more games as PS3 and many still said that Xbox 360 has no games. You can count every single game but yeah...

If quantity would be a great measurement I would play only on my phone. 

Also funny that I have twice as many games on Steam as PS4 has as whole library. Shows that the amount of games doesn't say much. 

Also Steam is 11 years old, and PC gaming goes back farther than that. OFC Steam would have more.

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I couldn't care less if 6000 games had released. Sure there is quantity but in terms of quality this has been one of the worst years in gaming in quite some time. Hopefully the next few months change that though because as of now there isn't a single game that deserves GOTY.



wary-wallaroo said:
But why is the PS4 selling? Why?! It clearly has no games, it's all just hype

The PS4 is also selling because the competition has dun goofed..



                
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Aura7541 said:
NeoRatt said:
Aura7541 said:

X1 certainly was overhyped, but not so much for the PS4. Remember, people purchase consoles of their choice as a long term investment. You never see anyone purchase a system for just one game. This is especially true after SCEJA's pre-TGS conference. The PS4's already-very-good 2015 lineup became even better and Sony has another pre-TGS conference on the 17th. Shinobi confirmed that there will be new announcements from both 1st and 3rd parties.

Early adoption is always a gamble. However, many consumers had a lot of confidence in the PS4 and their gamble is paying off, in my opinion.

PS4 is over-hyped as well.  For every announcement at E3 MS had an equal announcement.  Same at Gamescom, and MS has already announced a lot of Japanese content so at TGS Sony is just catching up.  Name an announcement and I will counter every one with an equal X1 announcement.  It is just that people are only listening blindly to Sony right now.

As for buying a console for the long term that is a pretty dumb consumer decision.  That is like buying a car frame with the promise of the engine and tires to coming later.  You have no idea what size the engine will be or what tires will be on it...  In games, you have no idea what quality the games will have over the next few years.  And just because Sony has a strong first party track record, people should not just automatically buy their stuff.  Track records can change, and we are already seeing some shift in the discussion on The Order from "greatest game ever" to "its looking pretty average"...

Console sales peak in years 3-6 not year one...  This is because by year 3 you start to see the critical mass of games released on each console that drives their sales.  That is why people are saying PS4 is over-hyped.  The amount of new, unique, and quality content available on PS4 is brutal.  X1 is slightly less brutal, and Wii U has saw third parties pretty much abandon them. ALL THE CONSOLES ARE OVER-HYPED RIGHT NOW.

MS didn't really announce much Japanese content. They only announced a few Japanese titles before E3 and that was all about it. Sony actually had some Japanese content announced before their pre-TGS conference. A lot of the stuff they announced during their conference were already planned out long before. It was just not a smart decision to announce them during Gamescom or PAX because those games mainly target the eastern audience, not the western audience.

Your car analogy doesn't make sense at all. A car frame is more comparible to the PS4 case. The car engine is like the PS4's CPU and GPU. The tires are like the PS4's RAM. Actually, there really is no need for an analogy at all hence why yours was so terrible. It's not as complicated as you think. The majority of consumers bought the PS4 because they saw the potential of the system. They know how much more powerful the PS4 is. They know how good of a value PS+ is. They know that Sony will deliver on games based on their track record. The Order: 1886 looking "mediocre" to some people isn't stopping them from highly anticipating other games like Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne.

And yes, console sales peak later, not at the beginning. However, Playstation platforms have always had a slow start, even the PS2. However, the PS2 wasn't overhyped at the beginning as it sold the most in video games history. Heck, all game systems don't peak until a few years later, but if you want to call the PS4 overhyped, you have to called all the other systems overhyped, too. However, at that point, it becomes incredibly silly.

TL;DR: PS4 is not overhyped. If it is, by your definition, every single system in video game history was overhyped.

The car analogy is perfect...  Essentially, you are buying something without knowing what quality of product will come later.  I wasn't trying to match engines to CPU...

PS2 sold well at the start and throughout its generation.  I don't think it was over hyped as it brought people a gaming device with a DVD drive on day one to the table and people at the time were wanting DVD drives for movies...  Unlike the PS3 that brought an overpriced gaming device and blu-ray player when people hadn't decided which HD standard they wanted yet.

PS4 has brought absolutely nothing to the table in its first year... It is just bigger and faster of all the same...



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NeoRatt said:

The car analogy is perfect...  Essentially, you are buying something without knowing what quality of product will come later.  I wasn't trying to match engines to CPU...

PS2 sold well at the start and throughout its generation.  I don't think it was over hyped as it brought people a gaming device with a DVD drive on day one to the table and people at the time were wanting DVD drives for movies...  Unlike the PS3 that brought an overpriced gaming device and blu-ray player when people hadn't decided which HD standard they wanted yet.

PS4 has brought absolutely nothing to the table in its first year... It is just bigger and faster of all the same...

The car analogy was 100% wrong. Both the car and PS4 are machines. However, you're comparing a frame of one to the entire product of another. It's a total non sequitor. If you want to compare the car frame to the PS4, compare it to the PS4's plastic case. When I buy a car, I buy a car. I don't get the frame. I get the engine, tires, brakes, trunk, and all that jazz. Same with the PS4. I buy a PS4, I don't just get a plastic case. I get the CPU/GPU, RAM, Blu-Ray drive, and other features. I can look online to see the specs of both a car and the PS4, too. Looking up the car's horsepower is like looking up how many teraflops the PS4 has. Heck, even demoing is similar. I can go to a dealership to test drive a car I'm interested in just like how I can check out the PS4 at a demo station in Gamestop.

People buy cars as a long term investment, too. They buy certain cars over another because they are certain that this certain car is more reliable, faster, has better safety, and better warranty. The dealership that sells this car probably does a better job keeping the car fine-tuned than other dealerships. Same with the PS4. People buy the PS4 because it's more powerful, has better online and online value, has better features (e.g. share button), a lot more games, and a lot more diversity in those game. This is a better and more correct analogy.



NeoRatt said:

I think XB fans are just laughing at sony fans for how they flip flop on how to count games all the time...  Remember, it was Sony fans that made the "digital games don't count" rule last gen, not Xbox fans...

To me, games should not count if they are not new...  Meaning they are not on any other platform.  That pretty much dwindles both list down to nothing.

And PS4 is not killing MS on the Indie front...  MS is getting almost all the same indie games plus some of their own as well.  Remember, PS fans like to say timed exclusivity doesn't count...  Warframe came out yesterday on X1... Therefore it was only a timed exclusive (Actuallytimed console exclusive)...  Same with Outlast...

 

 

 

As it was already pointed out there are way more indies on the PS4. It also does not matter if games are also on another platform all games count you can't just pick and choose what is acceptable because it makes your opinion look better. Not everyone is a PC gamer so having these indies on a different platform is great as it increases access to some very good games. 

 

I also don't recall Sony fans making light of indies the ones I all new and boards I belonged to all seemed pretty jealous to be honest, late last gen Sony woke up and took the indie ball and ran with it after MS dropped it and are still struggling. 

 

Even if Sony fans were complaining you can't say it was the whole fan base as only a small minority really ever piss and moan they are just more vocal. Nobody calls tech support to say that everything is working fine, that very same addage works with what your saying. Saying that, how does you taking the same opinion help? Does it help to bring yourself down to the levels a vocal few?

 



NeoRatt said:

The car analogy is perfect...  Essentially, you are buying something without knowing what quality of product will come later.  I wasn't trying to match engines to CPU...

PS2 sold well at the start and throughout its generation.  I don't think it was over hyped as it brought people a gaming device with a DVD drive on day one to the table and people at the time were wanting DVD drives for movies...  Unlike the PS3 that brought an overpriced gaming device and blu-ray player when people hadn't decided which HD standard they wanted yet.

PS4 has brought absolutely nothing to the table in its first year... It is just bigger and faster of all the same...


Your car thing is one of the worst anologies iv read, makes little to no sense and lack correlation with the PS4.  You seem desperate to mount an argument agianst the PS4 but are currently faling big time.  

Bigger faster is what people want, they want what they like but better.  When i buy a new car i want more power better fuel economy and more of what intrests me.  That is the PS4 is to most, thats why its selling.  There are logical reasons for everything if you choose to be open to seeing them, to many on here are desperate to see other wise no matter how much to the contrary of their opinion facts say things are.

 



Ninsect said:
NeoRatt said:

PS4 is over-hyped as well.  For every announcement at E3 MS had an equal announcement.  Same at Gamescom, and MS has already announced a lot of Japanese content so at TGS Sony is just catching up.  Name an announcement and I will counter every one with an equal X1 announcement.  It is just that people are only listening blindly to Sony right now.

Alright, let's start with Gamescom, match these:

The Tomorrow Children announced
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter announced
Volume announced
Hollowpoint announced, paradox partnership
DayZ PS4 announced
Hellblade announced
P.T. Horror game announced, AVAILABLE NOW
Update 2.0 detailed
Until Dawn re-announced for PS4, trailer
Tearaway Unfolded announced
Housemarque new game announced: Alienation
Wild announced

Fruit Ninja Kinect 2 announced

Tomb raider (timed) exclusivity announced

Goat Simulator announced

Media Play Update for new formats (including MKV) and external drive content and DLNA support

Halo channel announced

Screamride announced

Smite announced

Blues and Bullets announced

Cuphead announced

Dungeon of the Endless announced

Funk of Titans announced

Ghost of a Tale announced

Gunscape on X1 announced

 

 

 

 

 



Ninsect said:
NeoRatt said:
Avro1958 said:
I like how Xbox fanboys were all about the indies last gen and those games counted!! Now the PS4 is absolutely killing the XB1 on this Indie front they are all of a sudden saying Indies don't count... Games are games my friends and they absolutely count. Having more options to play while AAA games come out sure beats what's going on with the X1 and that wasteland right now.

And PS4 is not killing MS on the Indie front...  MS is getting almost all the same indie games plus some of their own as well.  Remember, PS fans like to say timed exclusivity doesn't count...  Warframe came out yesterday on X1... Therefore it was only a timed exclusive (Actuallytimed console exclusive)...  Same with Outlast...

PS4 has 66 digital games and X1 28. How is that "almost the same and some of their own as well"? That's not even half...

Yeah, you are looking at a point in time (today-ish)...  But MS has a ton of indie games coming this holiday as they play catch up.