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OfficerRaichu15 on 31 August 2014
Ninsect said:
tak13 said:
Seece said:
Yes, he next batch of shipments will be very interesting!!


i forgot to answer you ,yesterday :P! nintendo could overship...:P would you be surprised,if it does?:Pyou had said me that nintendo shippefd 810K GC in the same time frame,cant do the same with wii u :P?

No, since WiiU is even behind GC. Maybe 600-700k is possible.

no just no because your overestimating the amount of units worldwide 



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tak13 on 31 August 2014
Ninsect said:
tak13 said:
Seece said:
Yes, he next batch of shipments will be very interesting!!


i forgot to answer you ,yesterday :P! nintendo could overship...:P would you be surprised,if it does?:Pyou had said me that nintendo shippefd 810K GC in the same time frame,cant do the same with wii u :P?

No, since WiiU is even behind GC. Maybe 600-700k is possible.


so 7.28 or 7.38 based on you~!however because of hyrule warriors and bayonetta games,the new mario  3d world and mario kart bundles,i feel that shipping could even pass the respective of gc,810k or 910 so 7.48 -7.58:P



benji232 on 31 August 2014

WiiU is overtracked. However, Microsoft always ships much more consoles to retail then Nintendo so you shouldn't see it as "Oh, this means that wiiU is overtracked by nearly 900k". The wiiU can't really be overtracked by much more then 350k because we already have official NPD ltd and thats 100k overtracked and then we have Japan sales data and then the other 200k+ is in Europe and others. There could also be Canada and Brazil which could be overtracked by 10-25k.

But as you can see, it's impossible that the wiiU is overtracked by much more then 350k WW.



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PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

DerNebel on 31 August 2014
tak13 said:
DerNebel said:
PigPen said:


What, you're a parrot.  You say the exact same thing I say.  I read it, what did you read?

Geez, the irony of your posts in this thread is brilliant, calling other people dense while displaying such a huge lack of understanding of the subject at hand is hilarious.

OT: Don't know about the X1 but the Wii U is overtracked clear as day, especially if you consider that 60k of the 80k supposed worldwide stock are located in Japan.


dernebel xbone was undertracked,i made a thread with a mistake in undertracking number( i owe it to a bad npd thread...grrrrr),at least forced ioi to reduce it!now is on spot! 

You made a thread about the X1 being overtracked in the US. It's not likely but the X1 could still be under in some other parts in the world so we don't fully know where it stands.

Overall I don't pay much attention to X1 sales at the moment anyway, nothing really exciting happening with those and I only check Wii U sales because Nintendo are so extremely vocal about them on here.



Cobretti2 on 31 August 2014
Teeqoz said:
Cobretti2 said:
Teeqoz said:

Because it has only shipped 80k more than it sold, which is nigh impossible. It's normal for a console to have shipped 400-500k more than it sold, and in the Xbox Ones case it had an immense overship in Q1 so that number got higher than normal ( but I won't rule out the possibility of a slight XBO undertrack).

Also, I obviously reported you for insulting other users.


Normal yes. However Wii U is not a normal situation. The console is selling so bad do you think retailers would take so much excess stock upfront these days?

I reackon for Wii U it be close to 250K tops.


But the gap in shipped/sold is only 80k. And that doesn't even take in account that shipped consoles usually takes ~ 1 month to arrive at stores, which means that of those 6,68 million, perhaps only 6,64 million (and I'm being generous) had actually arrived to stores at that point in time.

I don't diagree the 80k is wrong. was just stating what i think worst case is based on the slow sales and retailers not wanting too much stock.



 

 

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eva01beserk on 31 August 2014
Teeqoz said:
PigPen said:
Teeqoz said:

Yeah, and we're using VGC figures as of June 28th. That makes sense right? Comparing VGC figures from June 28th with shipped figures from June 30th?


No, it don't make sense.  I'll wait for Nintendo to say otherwise.


I give up. You obviously ignore any evidence presented to you. Judging by your posts in this thread you probably wouldn't accept that the Wii U is overtracked even if total sales numbers on VGC ends up being above official shipment numbers.

Your not giving any evidence. You basicale have a gut fealing, even if it sounds acurate and posible, does not make it fact of evidence so he has a right to not belive you. You need to learn to diferiant the to, With that said, he has every right to denie your statements and you cannot create a thread and not take into consideration others opinions and consider your flawless.

niallyb said:
Some points to consider:

retailers have been keeping much smaller inventories of Wii u because they just didn't expect it to sell. Shipments likely increased after MK8 release and inventory numbers were depleted. This wouldn't show yet in the nintendo figures to June 30.

X1 - We have all seen retailer comments about it not selling like they expected, indicating that they were sitting on a pile of inventory (especially in the EU). Retailer price discounting before the price cut corroborates this. 


That said , its unlikely my theory accounts for the entire difference........

This right here is gold. This is why it can be such a large gap betwen x1 shiped and sold while its such a small gap between wii u. I still belive the wii u is overtracked but not by a lot, 150k tops. While the x1 has to be over tracked a lot more than the 150k adjustment mad the other day. Considering that acording to Tak, it was overtracked in the US alone by 300k, wich is its strongest market, around the world it should be by a lot. I can say without doubt that the x1 is not at 4.5m yet, wii u close to 7m.



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Teeqoz on 31 August 2014
eva01beserk said:
Teeqoz said:

I give up. You obviously ignore any evidence presented to you. Judging by your posts in this thread you probably wouldn't accept that the Wii U is overtracked even if total sales numbers on VGC ends up being above official shipment numbers.

Your not giving any evidence. You basicale have a gut fealing, even if it sounds acurate and posible, does not make it fact of evidence so he has a right to not belive you. You need to learn to diferiant the to, With that said, he has every right to denie your statements and you cannot create a thread and not take into consideration others opinions and consider your flawless.

I've given him Nintendos official shipment numbers, and it's obvious that the Wii U is overtracked when you compare it with VGC figures,especially when you take in consideration that there's 60k Wii Us in stock in just Japan, which leaves only 20k for the entire rest of the world to share. In the words of someone in this thread, we have no proof that the sun will rise tomorrow, yet we all 'know' that it will. Sure I could try and be more open, but we he earlier in this thread called me 'dense' and said that I "don't know the difference between overtracking and undertracking" (even though he was the one that displayed an obvious misunderstanding of the concept, mind-you) and said that i was (or atleast heavily implying that I was) talking out of my rear-end.

I did in fact not create this thread. Have you read the entire thread? Because that would probably help you a bit to understand why I wrote what I wrote.

I don't wholly consider my opinion flawless (but good job assuming that I'm narcissistic though), but in this case, when I have considerable evidence, which makes it nigh impossible for the Wii U to not be overtracked then I can assume that I am correct. Just like I can assume that I am correct in that the sun will rise tomorrow.





eva01beserk on 31 August 2014
Teeqoz said:
eva01beserk said:
Teeqoz said:

I give up. You obviously ignore any evidence presented to you. Judging by your posts in this thread you probably wouldn't accept that the Wii U is overtracked even if total sales numbers on VGC ends up being above official shipment numbers.

Your not giving any evidence. You basicale have a gut fealing, even if it sounds acurate and posible, does not make it fact of evidence so he has a right to not belive you. You need to learn to diferiant the to, With that said, he has every right to denie your statements and you cannot create a thread and not take into consideration others opinions and consider your flawless.

I've given him Nintendos official shipment numbers, and it's obvious that the Wii U is overtracked when you compare it with VGC figures,especially when you take in consideration that there's 60k Wii Us in stock in just Japan, which leaves only 20k for the entire rest of the world to share. In the words of someone in this thread, we have no proof that the sun will rise tomorrow, yet we all 'know' that it will. Sure I could try and be more open, but we he earlier in this thread called me 'dense' and said that I "don't know the difference between overtracking and undertracking" (even though he was the one that displayed an obvious misunderstanding of the concept, mind-you) and said that i was (or atleast heavily implying that I was) talking out of my rear-end.

I did in fact not create this thread. Have you read the entire thread? Because that would probably help you a bit to understand why I wrote what I wrote.

I don't wholly consider my opinion flawless (but good job assuming that I'm narcissistic though), but in this case, when I have considerable evidence, which makes it nigh impossible for the Wii U to not be overtracked then I can assume that I am correct. Just like I can assume that I am correct in that the sun will rise tomorrow.



I got confused then, I really thought you created the thread. I did read all of it but I must have gotten you mistaken for the creator since Im not good with names(unless boobs are presented with the name). But my comment looses a lot if it was not you, sorry about that. Not assuming you are narcissistic, evryone has theorys that cannot be prooven right or wrong untill way later that it does not matter anymore, even me. Was just trying to say that for the same reasons you cant prove him wrong, he cant proove you wrong. Again, sorry if that sounded insulting.

But the second part of the comment I made, with the other quote, That I do not regret. Like I said I still belive you are right that its overtracked, but not by a lot and the other guy had a really good explanantion as to why. So its not hard for me to see why he stood by his opinion.



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Teeqoz on 31 August 2014
eva01beserk said:
Teeqoz said:
eva01beserk said:

Your not giving any evidence. You basicale have a gut fealing, even if it sounds acurate and posible, does not make it fact of evidence so he has a right to not belive you. You need to learn to diferiant the to, With that said, he has every right to denie your statements and you cannot create a thread and not take into consideration others opinions and consider your flawless.

I've given him Nintendos official shipment numbers, and it's obvious that the Wii U is overtracked when you compare it with VGC figures,especially when you take in consideration that there's 60k Wii Us in stock in just Japan, which leaves only 20k for the entire rest of the world to share. In the words of someone in this thread, we have no proof that the sun will rise tomorrow, yet we all 'know' that it will. Sure I could try and be more open, but we he earlier in this thread called me 'dense' and said that I "don't know the difference between overtracking and undertracking" (even though he was the one that displayed an obvious misunderstanding of the concept, mind-you) and said that i was (or atleast heavily implying that I was) talking out of my rear-end.

I did in fact not create this thread. Have you read the entire thread? Because that would probably help you a bit to understand why I wrote what I wrote.

I don't wholly consider my opinion flawless (but good job assuming that I'm narcissistic though), but in this case, when I have considerable evidence, which makes it nigh impossible for the Wii U to not be overtracked then I can assume that I am correct. Just like I can assume that I am correct in that the sun will rise tomorrow.



I got confused then, I really thought you created the thread. I did read all of it but I must have gotten you mistaken for the creator since Im not good with names(unless boobs are presented with the name). But my comment looses a lot if it was not you, sorry about that. Not assuming you are narcissistic, evryone has theorys that cannot be prooven right or wrong untill way later that it does not matter anymore, even me. Was just trying to say that for the same reasons you cant prove him wrong, he cant proove you wrong. Again, sorry if that sounded insulting.

But the second part of the comment I made, with the other quote, That I do not regret. Like I said I still belive you are right that its overtracked, but not by a lot and the other guy had a really good explanantion as to why. So its not hard for me to see why he stood by his opinion.


But the guy in the second part of the quote wasn't the guy I was arguing with. That was someone else, whom I haven't responded to at all in this thread



LGF on 31 August 2014

So if Wii U is overtracked, it may be selling less than Xone right now, isn't that right?
I'm curious to see what's going to happen in this holiday season. Nintendo is traditionally strong in Christmas, but Xbox will have so many important games. Destiny and COD will be two beasts!