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ICStats on 30 August 2014

Poster A: "Wii U is really overtracked. 200k at the least."
Poster B: "Wii U is not overtracked that much. 200k at the most."

Well at least we are getting some consensus on the figure, if not on the spin .



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PigPen on 30 August 2014
WhiteEaglePL said:
Torillian said:
WhiteEaglePL said:
Overtracked? I don't believe so. I think it's basically spot on.


That seems basically impossible if the shipment to userbase difference noted by some is on point.  Can't imagine such a small amount of consoles being on shelves.  


New shipments that Nintendo did not specify yet lol.


You're amazing.



Solid-Stark on 30 August 2014

Reading through some of the figures provided, WiiU seems to be more like 400k over tracked.



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benji232 on 30 August 2014
Seece said:
tbone51 said:
Seece said:
tbone51 said:

We kno (for this gen)

WiiU overtracked by 100k-300k maybe 400k (Hard to pinpoint)

3DS overtrackec by 800k-1.2mil

PS4 overtracked by Negative 200k-400k

Vita overtracked by 1 (just 1) to 2mil (Seriously, we have no idea how much this thing has sold other than 3.2mil in japan and about 1.8mil in the US)

X1 overtracked by 100k-150k in the US. Dunno about Europe

I'm curious as to what you think Nintendo will ship this current Q? Remembering they shipped 510k last Q with Mario Kart.

What's your prediction?


Most logical answer overall would be imo 400k. Mario Kart 8 is still doing well, but with no new software aside from Hyrule Warriors, it should be down.

That said, in japan WiiU sales have improved from last quarter, could help out somewat, and US the MK8 bundles were very very limited and Nintendo has announced a wiiu bundle is coming soon (though unfortunately its at the end of this quarter.

My guess is 7mil shipped at the least, 7.4mil at the most (if they did indeed send alot.

That's interesting, I actually think they can do better than 400k.

But to do as well as VGChartz is showing, (which will translate to 7.37m/7.42m by the end of September) WiiU needs to ship 690k/740k just to be even with our figures, that doesn't take into account the fact that if it's selling 55k a week, there should/would be at least 8 weeks worth of stock in the channel, so 400 - 500k more on top of that.

We're expecting 1.2m/1.3m shipped.

If Nintendo ship 600k then we're at least 400k overtracked, minimum.

Edit - and as for XB1, since when was US 65% of the XB1 market. The figures show XB1 has held up better in Europe/elsewhere than the US compared to 2013 figures.

Honnestly, I'd expect Nintendo to have shipped at least 650-700k wiiUs this quarter. That doesn't change the fact that it's overtracked by roughly 300k. 



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

tak13 on 30 August 2014
OfficerRaichu15 said:

I mean I know its overtracked but I only see it being overtracked by 200k tops

thats because you  100k overtracked in america

then the rest ww(we have european sales and there about right)

with support Ill use this thread from yesterday showng lifetime sales of some countries in europe

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=189183&page=1#22

heres a graph from it

Console Region VGC Official  Difference 
PS4 US 3,871,448 as of Aug 2, 2014 3,760,000 as of Aug 2, 2014 Over by ~100k
XB1 US 3,071,700 as of Aug 2, 2014 3,047,000 as of Aug 2, 2014 On spot
WiiU US 2,722,627 as of Aug 2, 2014 2,629,000 as of Aug 2, 2014 Over by ~100k
PS4 Germany  538,413 as of Jun 28, 2014 540,000 as of Jun 28, 2014 On spot
XB1 Germany 167,546 as of Jun 28, 2014 170,000 as of Jun 28, 2014 On spot
WiiU Germany 351,560 as of Ago 16, 2014 350,000 unknown date On spot
PS4 Italy (260k today) 220,000 as of Jun 26, 2014 I don't know
PS4 Spain (330k today for Spain + Portugal) 275,000 as of Jun 12, 2014 Under
WiiU France 358,267 as of May 31, 2014 360,000 as of early of Jun, 2014 On spot

See all both france and germany are spot on now(and uk is likely too). 

Now i believe 100k ww is a more likely number imo since those countries arent responsible for as many sales compared to us,uk,japan,germany,farnce,etc.

so in conclusion I think wii u is nly 200k overtracked at most

lool where did you get numbers, mine are different and there are npd sum up !wii u is on spot in usa and japan!(xbone is still overtracked in usa...wrong) (i had made a thread,which forced ioi to reduce it !)

xbone npd 909+908+142K+145+258K+115K+77K+197K+137k=2.888.654 vs vgchartz 3.200.985 before my thread(till 2th of august) i made  a mistake in march because of bad npd thread...so 909+908+142+258+311+115+77+197+131

wii u npd 425+460+57K6+66k+67K+35K+36K+42K+32K+31K+93+56K+225K+481K+49K+82k+82k+49K+61k+140K+81K=2.724.658 vs vgchartz 2.722.627 (till 2th of august)



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Seece on 30 August 2014
tak13 said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:

I mean I know its overtracked but I only see it being overtracked by 200k tops

thats because you  100k overtracked in america

then the rest ww(we have european sales and there about right)

with support Ill use this thread from yesterday showng lifetime sales of some countries in europe

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=189183&page=1#22

heres a graph from it

Console Region VGC Official  Difference 
PS4 US 3,871,448 as of Aug 2, 2014 3,760,000 as of Aug 2, 2014 Over by ~100k
XB1 US 3,071,700 as of Aug 2, 2014 3,047,000 as of Aug 2, 2014 On spot
WiiU US 2,722,627 as of Aug 2, 2014 2,629,000 as of Aug 2, 2014 Over by ~100k
PS4 Germany  538,413 as of Jun 28, 2014 540,000 as of Jun 28, 2014 On spot
XB1 Germany 167,546 as of Jun 28, 2014 170,000 as of Jun 28, 2014 On spot
WiiU Germany 351,560 as of Ago 16, 2014 350,000 unknown date On spot
PS4 Italy (260k today) 220,000 as of Jun 26, 2014 I don't know
PS4 Spain (330k today for Spain + Portugal) 275,000 as of Jun 12, 2014 Under
WiiU France 358,267 as of May 31, 2014 360,000 as of early of Jun, 2014 On spot

See all both france and germany are spot on now(and uk is likely too). 

Now i believe 100k ww is a more likely number imo since those countries arent responsible for as many sales compared to us,uk,japan,germany,farnce,etc.

so in conclusion I think wii u is nly 200k overtracked at most

lool where did you get numbers, mine are different and there are npd sum up !wii u is on spot in usa and japan!xbone is stil overtracked in usa i have made a thread,which forced ioi to reduce it ,!

xbone npd 909+908+142K+145K+258K+115K+77K+197K+137k=2.888.654 vs vgchartz 3.200.985(till 2th of august)

wii u npd 425+460+57K6+66k+67K+35K+36K+42K+32K+31K+93+56K+225K+481K+49K+82k+82k+49K+61k+140K+81K=2.724.658 vs vgchartz 2.722.627 (till 2th of august)

Your XB1 NPD figures are wrong FYI.

 

Nov-13 1 909,000
Dec-13 2 908,000
Jan-14 3 141,000
Feb-14 4 258,000
Mar-14 5 311,000
Apr-14 6 115,000
May-14 7 77,000
Jun-14 8 197,000
Jul-14 9 131,000
 
LTD 3,047,000

As are your WiiU ones. At this point it looks like you're just making them up?

WiiU LTD in the US is 2.624m.

I update monthly and have been since 2006.

Edit - http://news.xbox.com/2014/04/xbox-one-march-npd


Link for if you start accusing me of being wrong.

Highlights from March 2014 NPD Group results include:

  • Xbox One continues selling at a strong pace with 311,000 units sold in the U.S.


 

tak13 on 30 August 2014
Seece said:
tak13 said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:

I mean I know its overtracked but I only see it being overtracked by 200k tops

thats because you  100k overtracked in america

then the rest ww(we have european sales and there about right)

with support Ill use this thread from yesterday showng lifetime sales of some countries in europe

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=189183&page=1#22

heres a graph from it

Console Region VGC Official  Difference 
PS4 US 3,871,448 as of Aug 2, 2014 3,760,000 as of Aug 2, 2014 Over by ~100k
XB1 US 3,071,700 as of Aug 2, 2014 3,047,000 as of Aug 2, 2014 On spot
WiiU US 2,722,627 as of Aug 2, 2014 2,629,000 as of Aug 2, 2014 Over by ~100k
PS4 Germany  538,413 as of Jun 28, 2014 540,000 as of Jun 28, 2014 On spot
XB1 Germany 167,546 as of Jun 28, 2014 170,000 as of Jun 28, 2014 On spot
WiiU Germany 351,560 as of Ago 16, 2014 350,000 unknown date On spot
PS4 Italy (260k today) 220,000 as of Jun 26, 2014 I don't know
PS4 Spain (330k today for Spain + Portugal) 275,000 as of Jun 12, 2014 Under
WiiU France 358,267 as of May 31, 2014 360,000 as of early of Jun, 2014 On spot

See all both france and germany are spot on now(and uk is likely too). 

Now i believe 100k ww is a more likely number imo since those countries arent responsible for as many sales compared to us,uk,japan,germany,farnce,etc.

so in conclusion I think wii u is nly 200k overtracked at most

lool where did you get numbers, mine are different and there are npd sum up !wii u is on spot in usa and japan!xbone is stil overtracked in usa i have made a thread,which forced ioi to reduce it ,!

xbone npd 909+908+142K+145K+258K+115K+77K+197K+137k=2.888.654 vs vgchartz 3.200.985(till 2th of august)

wii u npd 425+460+57K6+66k+67K+35K+36K+42K+32K+31K+93+56K+225K+481K+49K+82k+82k+49K+61k+140K+81K=2.724.658 vs vgchartz 2.722.627 (till 2th of august)

Your XB1 NPD figures are wrong FYI.

 

Nov-13 1 909,000
Dec-13 2 908,000
Jan-14 3 141,000
Feb-14 4 258,000
Mar-14 5 311,000
Apr-14 6 115,000
May-14 7 77,000
Jun-14 8 197,000
Jul-14 9 131,000
 
LTD 3,047,000

As are your WiiU ones. At this point it looks like you're just making them up?

WiiU LTD in the US is 2.624m.


seece...stop it!no i didnt , i got them from boutros threads!loooool i just realised i made mistake in march, because o pezus bad npd thread!at least i forced ioi to reduce it!so the undertrack was lower than i wrote,i feel so sorry :(  153k instead of 312K f.............ck pezus thread!



Seece on 30 August 2014
tak13 said:
Seece said:

Your XB1 NPD figures are wrong FYI.

 

Nov-13 1 909,000
Dec-13 2 908,000
Jan-14 3 141,000
Feb-14 4 258,000
Mar-14 5 311,000
Apr-14 6 115,000
May-14 7 77,000
Jun-14 8 197,000
Jul-14 9 131,000
 
LTD 3,047,000

As are your WiiU ones. At this point it looks like you're just making them up?

WiiU LTD in the US is 2.624m.


seece...stop it!no i didnt , i got them from boutros threads!loooool i just realised i made mistake in march, because o pezus bad npd thread!at least i forced ioi to reduce it!so the undertrack was lower than i wrote,i feel so sorry :(  153k instead of 312K f.............ck pezus thread!

What you are failing to understand is that it is irrelevant what VGC has either XB1 or WiiU sold as in Japan, US and other countries we have data for.

The shipment info we have for up to late June show the WiiU is overtracked. And there isn't really much we can say about XB1 at all. Could be over, under or spot on. All we know is there is plentiful supply on shelves.



 

tak13 on 30 August 2014
Seece said:
tak13 said:
Seece said:

Your XB1 NPD figures are wrong FYI.

 

Nov-13 1 909,000
Dec-13 2 908,000
Jan-14 3 141,000
Feb-14 4 258,000
Mar-14 5 311,000
Apr-14 6 115,000
May-14 7 77,000
Jun-14 8 197,000
Jul-14 9 131,000
 
LTD 3,047,000

As are your WiiU ones. At this point it looks like you're just making them up?

WiiU LTD in the US is 2.624m.


seece...stop it!no i didnt , i got them from boutros threads!loooool i just realised i made mistake in march, because o pezus bad npd thread!at least i forced ioi to reduce it!so the undertrack was lower than i wrote,i feel so sorry :(  153k instead of 312K f.............ck pezus thread!

What you are failing to understand is that it is irrelevant what VGC has either XB1 or WiiU sold as in Japan, US and other countries we have data for.

The shipment info we have for up to late June show the WiiU is overtracked. And there isn't really much we can say about XB1 at all. Could be over, under or spot on. All we know is there is plentiful supply on shelves.

i feel so bad now!at least i informed ioi for undertracking and he fixed it!seece my wii u numbers are right,only aug/sept/oct are speculations,because they didnt give us numbers...i calculate these months from comments!just august and october,september we knew that was 200% up,in  regard to august!so were did you get yours?apparently,you also speculating for these months and you chose the lowest numbers...



Seece on 30 August 2014
tak13 said:
Seece said:

What you are failing to understand is that it is irrelevant what VGC has either XB1 or WiiU sold as in Japan, US and other countries we have data for.

The shipment info we have for up to late June show the WiiU is overtracked. And there isn't really much we can say about XB1 at all. Could be over, under or spot on. All we know is there is plentiful supply on shelves.

i feel so bad now!at least i informed ioi for undertracking and he fixed it!seece my wii u numbers are right,only aug/sept/oct are speculations,because they didnt give us numbers...i calculate these months from comments!just august and october,september we knew that was 200% up,in  regard to august!so were did you get yours?apparently,you also speculating for these months and you chose the lowest numbers...

 

Nov-12 425,000
Dec-12 460,000
Jan-13 57,000
Feb-13 66,000
Mar-13 67,000
Apr-13 37,000
May-13 35,000
Jun-13 42,000
Jul-13 30,000
Aug-13 32,000
Sep-13 91,000
Oct-13 50,000

 

220,000
481,000
49,000
82,000
70,000
48,000
61,000
140,000
81,000


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