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Forums - Sales Discussion - 16th August HW up; + adjustments; PS4 at 9.9M

overman1 on 27 August 2014
Vincoletto said:
BeElite said:
Vincoletto said:
I'm I the only one that thinks a dominance like this from PS4 is bad for the game market? A share division of 40%/30%/30% would be better. But this week, for exmaple, we saw 56%/25%/19%. Not good.


No, PS2 gen was best all around.  SO its very good, 70 20 10 will be even better.  


70/20/10 is almost a monopoly. ALthough I agree PS2 gen was amazing, its always good to have competition.

oh please, in every gen there is always that one console that dominates utterly

PS1, PS2, Wii and now Ps4

Just the way things are. 



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NewGuy on 27 August 2014
overman1 said:
Vincoletto said:
BeElite said:
Vincoletto said:
I'm I the only one that thinks a dominance like this from PS4 is bad for the game market? A share division of 40%/30%/30% would be better. But this week, for exmaple, we saw 56%/25%/19%. Not good.


No, PS2 gen was best all around.  SO its very good, 70 20 10 will be even better.  


70/20/10 is almost a monopoly. ALthough I agree PS2 gen was amazing, its always good to have competition.

oh please, in every gen there is always that one console that dominates utterly

PS1, PS2, Wii and now Ps4

Just the way things are. 

 

PS1 = 102.49/147.07 = ~70%

PS2 = 155/211.34 = ~73%

Wii = 101.15/265.15 = ~38%

PS4 = 10/21.78 = ~46%

I took the shipment numbers from wiki, which means the Wii percentage is actually lower than that as the PS3 is still at 80 million there, which is figure that's almost a year old. Wii did dominate at one point, but the Wii ain't no PS1 or PS2, it still remains to be seen if the PS4 can reach those heights.



Ninsect on 27 August 2014
NewGuy said:
overman1 said:
Vincoletto said:


70/20/10 is almost a monopoly. ALthough I agree PS2 gen was amazing, its always good to have competition.

oh please, in every gen there is always that one console that dominates utterly

PS1, PS2, Wii and now Ps4

Just the way things are. 

 

PS1 = 102.49/147.07 = ~70%

PS2 = 155/211.34 = ~73%

Wii = 101.15/265.15 = ~38%

PS4 = 10/21.78 = ~46%

I took the shipment numbers from wiki, which means the Wii percentage is actually lower than that as the PS3 is still at 80 million there, which is figure that's almost a year old. Wii did dominate at one point, but the Wii ain't no PS1 or PS2, it still remains to be seen if the PS4 can reach those heights.

Well the ratios were lower when the generation was ongoing. Like with PS2, it sold for like 10 years more than XB and GC lol.

And Wii's was really close to 50% for a while but then it dropped off quickly and PS360 started to outsell it week after week.



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CrowRSchneider on 27 August 2014

You missed the wii and psp numbers... I want to brag about Wii overselling the psp...



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Azhraell on 27 August 2014

The race for second place will be indeed exciting, PS4 doing good with 60% so far this year



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IamAwsome on 27 August 2014
overman1 said:
NewGuy said:
overman1 said:

funny how MS still needs to pay Sony for every Xbox one sold too...

talk about being a rich bully and still taking peoples lunch money. 


Why would MS need to pay Sony for every XBone sold?


bluray.

Sony doesn't collect royalties from Blu-Ray. The BD Consortium does. 



SaberSaurus on 27 August 2014
IamAwsome said:
overman1 said:
NewGuy said:
overman1 said:

funny how MS still needs to pay Sony for every Xbox one sold too...

talk about being a rich bully and still taking peoples lunch money. 


Why would MS need to pay Sony for every XBone sold?


bluray.

Sony doesn't collect royalties from Blu-Ray. The BD Consortium does. 


Sony is part of it.



   

Raziel123 on 27 August 2014

updated OP

bit of curious info, US (not NA) numbers are 47k PS4 vs 30k XB1... with price parity..globally in the US...



Mr_No on 27 August 2014

Good work for Sony and PlayStation. I believe this is only the beginning of the PS4 domination.



NeoRatt on 27 August 2014
Ronster316 said:

NEVER in the HISTORY of gaming has the number 1 selling console been SO UNDESERVING of the position that it finds itself in.

And not just due to the fact that its in first place, but by how many more units it sells compared to it's competitors at this stage in the game.

Those PS4 sales make me feel fucking sick.

Septembers PS+ line up is a plie of steaming shit, and frankly PS+ has been shockingly bad for at least a good 4-5 months now.

They haven't released ANYTHING NEW of any decent quality recently (aside from a lazy "remaster lol" with only ever so slightly better graphics of a game a mere 1 year old)

Theres not even ONE must have game coming for the rest of 2014.

On top of that, everyone knows that a shit tonne of their "2015" games will get pushed back to 2016. (same shit happened on ps3, that machine had fuck all in terms of real quality games until "the delayed" MGS4 hit)

That god damn console is selling on hype alone, and that just does not sit well with me, PATHETIC.

Lucky bastards either stayed quiet (DRM) or said the right thing at the right time, and the vast majority lapped it up and bought it hook, line and sinker.

Hell, i'll even go as far as to say that "gamers" are PISSING ME OFF right now.

Those sony motherfuckers are coasting along without a care in the world, (hey, why try hard when people are buying your console regardless of how little you try) and that ANGERS me.

 

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This is my ban rant!

I have to agree.  Gamers have bought into Sony's BS hook, line and sinker...  I have all three consoles this gen and PS4 is definately at the bottom of the list.

You know it is bad when games like The Last Guardian have been in development for over 5 years and Sony fanboys talk as if this has already shipped and it is the most epic game ever... Newsflash!  If I was given a few hundred million and 5 years to develop a game it would be even more epic!

The PS4 is full of hype and very short on substance.  95% of the Indie games are ports from other platforms.  There is only a few indie games that actually shipped first on PS4...  And last generation PS fans told XB fans that downloadable and indie games didn't count.  So, why do they suddenly count this generation then?  Right...  Because that's all PS4 fans have to brag about.

2014 timed console exclusives or full console exclusives (also remove ports from their PS3) is a few Indie games and inFamous SS and the new inFamous Stand alone DLC... Add to that DriveClub and LBP3 coming soon and you've summed up the PS4 lineup for 2014. 

Meanwhile MS brought PvZ Garden Warfare and Titanfall in winter/spring to Xbox gamers and are bringing Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Project Spark, and Disney Fantasia Music Evolved for holiday 2014...  Not to mention a catch-up on Indie games, some Indie stuff of their own, and a bunch of downloadables such as Dance Central and XB1 gamers won't be posting on this site for months because they will be too busy playing games while Sony fanboys will live on this site through the holiday bragging about sales because they won't have any games to play.

To date, Sony has not shown any innovative gameplay this generation.   The games are all looking pretty but play pretty much the same as they did last generation.  Sony simply wants to keep your eye on shiny 1080p the rest of the generation and offer nothing new gameplay wise... (I would've said 60 fps, but we all know that inFamous and DriveClub aren't there).  Meanwhile on XB1, we have seen more zombies in DR3 than could ever have done before, Forza introduced Drivatars to the racing genre, and Titanfall combined the online FPS with Mechs.  Sony brought the "Share" function...

This site, like N4G, and many other so called "gaming media" sites have lost all objectivity and are purely a bunch of Sony fanboys now.  Anything MS does is bad, everything Sony does is thoughtful and for gamers.  I feel for both Nintendo and Microsoft.  Both started the generation shaky, but their games lineup is well above Sony's yet Sony keeps getting the sales.  There is no logic in this anymore, it is purely based on hype and momentum.  Gamers always talk about games always win... With Sony, this is completely untrue.  Nintendo ALWAYS has better and more exclusives than Sony.

Now, I am going to accept my ban on this site from the Sony fanboy owners/employees/mods here, and go back to playing games on my XB1 and Wii U... They will keep me busy through the fall/winter.  Meanwhile pathetic RecycleStation 4 owners will continue to visit this site everyday for the next 6 months talking about how great sales are.  Meanwhile XB1 and Nintendo gamers will be too busy playing games to visit this site this holiday season.  I feel sorry for how Sony fanboys have bought into the marketing BS.  It shows how gullable and pathetic they truely are.

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