Also, I wonder why MS doesn't offer SKUs with Kinect for their bundles (Madden, Fifa, Sunset and COD). Seems like potential buyers interested in Kinect would want a Kinect that matches their console.

This still won't be useable on PC right? So another $150 for the PC Kinect?

I really don't know why anyone would buy the standalone Xbone Kinect. Presumably those buying the Kinectless Xbone didn't find enough value in the Kinect to justify the additional price, why would they suddenly drop $150 on it?

Kinect for Windows sells for $199 actually and has been available for a month or so.

X1 is definetly a lot cheaper, I highly doubt the x1 can cost as much as a ps4 being that much weaker. But also, they have to make it painfull so people would want to pick up the $500 bundle, but this is to much considering people dont even want the X1 alone.

This is just going to turn a lot of people off and all the ones saying that they dont see a problem and its a good offer or they get why they are doing this and its perfect for the holidays, these people probably already have the $500 x1 bundle. I see this impacting negatively on the holidays sales cuz now they look greedy while also loosing the console race, so they should be humble and grovel to the consumer and not trying to exploit them.

Damn, I missed that one. Now begins the long wait until I find one in a bargain bin :D

This thing is DOA. Especially without any major Kinect exclusives coming.

$149? Forget that shit..

Who has ever made that claim? Ever?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-07-15-kinect-costs-almost-as-much-as-xbox-one-to-make-says-dev

That was a year ago, before release and clearly, he was talking out of his ass ( i assume to make it sound more expensive and more of a deal when bundled)

But, i stand corrected.