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So, all 5 of those men were respected journalists who after fucking her wrote positive reviews if her game, even though the game sucks?
Is that the story? I am asking because I couldn't understand the back story.

While some of you may object morally to someone sleeping around, and while some of you might find promiscuity offensive, there is absolutely nothing illegal or shameworthy in fucking 6 men.

Would anyone be offended if they found out that the male creator of Fez, Braid, Halo, Uncharted etc. fucked 5 women, one of who was employed by IGN?

If her game sucks, no amount of sex will make it a blockbuster (unless of course she offers a blow job to every single customer).

People need to get off their high horse and stop poking noses into other people's private affairs.



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Nicklesbe said:
SqueakySamurai said:
Nicklesbe said:
SqueakySamurai said:


You clearly have your mind set on me being an MRA person so I don't know why I'm bothering but there is video proof of her admitting she cheated on him and you still are denying it. Why don't you try READING the blog post before posting anymore shit because it's clear you don't know what you're talking about.


What do you not understand about the fact that she may or may not have cheated is none of your business and has absolutly nothing to do with games or the game industry? That's why you are an MRA because you don't see her as a fallible person, instead you see her as an enemy that you need to attack and bash, and even start what looks like a crusade to make her look bad when what she did is none of your business and doesn't affect you in any way.

What do you not understand about the fact that it's about her having sex with important people in the industry? It's not about her cheating on her boyfriend, it's that she's may be using her body to get ahead. Let me repeat that again, IT'S NOT ABOUT HER CHEATING ON HER BOYFRIEND, IT'S ABOUT HER HAVING SEX WITH IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY TO GET AHEAD. The video was simply proof that she did cheat, not necessarily that she did it to get ahead.

Also, you are the only person here accusing anyone of affiliations. You have used the term MRA in all of your posts. Nobody here is trying to make this a gender issue, it's an issue with nepotism in the game industry. You seem to be the only person trying to make a gender problem out of this, accusing men of making shit up and saying it's all just lonely virgins and MRA's.

If its not about her cheating why bring it up? damn you are sad. You do realize there is absolutly no proof she actually used her body to get ahead. She had some relationships so what? You having nothing but the words of other people that know less about the situation then you. You have made it a gender issue since your first post. Not once have you said anything bad about the 5 men that supposedly particapted. Instead all you did was give them a free pass and attack her and treat her like the bad guy when you don't even fully know what really happened. It's more than obvious what you are and what you are doing and its frankly sad. 


You're right that there is no proof that she did it for personal gain. But there is proof that she did at least have sex with them. There is also proof that people discussing it got deleted from mods that had contact with her and that articles about it got taken down. That is where the suspicions came from in the first place. Her cheating on her boyfriend is part of the evidence that she may be using her body to get ahead.



SqueakySamurai said:
starcraft said:

Except there is absolutely no conclusive evidence that that is the case.

So no, who she sleeps with remains absolutely none of our business, and her treatement at the hands of the gaming community is abhorrent.

That is correct, there is no definite proof that she did it to get ahead, but there is 100% proof that she did have sex with the writers at Kotaku, and that is enough proof to at least suspect that she might. All the comments and articles that mention this getting removed is also suspicious. It's not just MRA's trying to do a witchhunt, although I admit they do have a hand it in, there is actual reason for the suspicion.  Whether or not it was for leverage will come to light soon.

No, it is proof of nothing. 

What it is, is an excuse for the perves of the internet to try to insert themselves without merit into the sex life of a woman.



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SqueakySamurai said:
Nicklesbe said:
This is not appropritate. No one has all the facts and what everyone is going on is what a bunch pissed off lonely pervs say on 4chan and on reddit. The industry is hostile enough to woman gamers, this kind of baseless shaming does not help any. It has nothing to do with games, game sales, or the price of gaming so I don't see the point in discussing this. A woman had a relationship with a man and then a bunch of perceived lonely woman haters bashed a woman that didn't deserve it simply because she was a woman in the gaming industry. /thread.


I knew there would be people like you trying to dismiss all of this simply as "oh those loser virgin nerds, they're just misogynistic loners."
The issue isn't necessarily that she cheated on her boyfriend with 5 Men including a married man,  the issue is that she is using her body to get ahead in the industry and that she has been lying about getting hacked and doxxed.

So no, this is not "lonely pervs" trying to shame a woman. This is honest gamers that care about the industry trying to shed light on a horrible practice that is plaguing journalism.

Then why bring up the five other men including a married man  cheating on her boyfriend all inflamitory and having nothing to do with the case at point .

if you want to bring up a real or percieved gender bias  you should stick to the facts that are relevent to the point  that point being  ,was her having sex with a journalist done for pleasure or business and, unlike the other case this is further muddied by the fact that she wasn't a coworker discriminating  or being discriminated against ,  the victim if any would be the journalist's employer and as such it should be up to them to see if their employees actions where inappropriate.

It really comes down to what is really poor choices by both sides not something that needs to be made into a spectical.



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well everytime a man cheats that is remotely famous it gets media attention. So i don't see why this shouldn't get attention in a supposed equality driven society.

what she did and what other men in the media preceding her did should be their own private business to sort out.



 

 

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I hate how one person's inexcusable behavior is somehow justification to bash an entire movement and gender.

Yes, women can do horrible, selfish things too. But it should be the individual who deserves the ire and disgust, not (genuine) feminists or females as a whole. Most of us aren't man-hating nutjobs, and it's only the outspoken few. Any time I see anything involving women that could possibly be considered scandalous, such as the Zero Suit Samus Alts, I see more people getting up in arms about the supposed complaints from 'feminazis' than I see people actually complaining (Tumblr notwithstanding, but if you go there, that's on you). It's frustrating seeing people on both sides being so irrational and uncompromising.

That said, if this is all true, this women and the men she used/was used by deserve plenty of scorn.



starcraft said:
cheshirescat said:
jnemesh said:
Seriously? This needs to stop. It's no one's business WHO she sleeps with. PERIOD.

When it creates corruption and a conflict of interest then it most certainly is our business.

Except there is absolutely no conclusive evidence that that is the case.

So no, who she sleeps with remains absolutely none of our business, and her treatement at the hands of the gaming community is abhorrent.

There is supposed evidence, the veracity of which I could not speak to but that is not the point.  That she may have cheated, or been promiscuous is not the issue, but if she slept with a game journalist and that journalist gave her press then that created a conflict of interest, that goes for anyone.  The problem here is with corruption of the media, and while the bar for gaming journalism's validity is very low that doesn't mean it shouldn't be held to some sort of standard.

 

Now admitted, all of the rabble that has been stirred up with this is salacious, when cooler heads prevail--hopefully--it shouldn't simply be blown off as, "It's none of anyone's business," if it is proved unequivocally that there is truth to this fiasco.



That blog makes it sound like she slept with all those people while they were broken up and makes it a habit to keep citing her "principles" and how she "violated them" when she did so. Then on top of that he is ridiculously obsessive. His messages with her go on for weeks, refusing to let things go. He just goes on and on, in an obvious attempt to keep making her feel like shit. One moment he says he wants to work things out, then the next moment he says things like "but I still can't understand why you slept with so and so".

Jeez... I can't believe I read like 75% of that thing...



Cheating sucks, but if they were in fact broken up when she slept with them then fair game.



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usually if a male cheats on her partner it creates a scandal and some kind of apology is required


problem here is the lack of evidence, the video shown is hardly proof


so TotalBiscuit's post makes total sense to me, basically resumed by "you can't see very far in a shitstorm."



Burek said:
Would anyone be offended if they found out that the male creator of Fez, Braid, Halo, Uncharted etc. fucked 5 women, one of who was employed by IGN?

Well ... yes.  I wouldn't say 'offended', but IF we're talking about a writer or editor who dealt with information pertaining to the game in question, that's a conflict of interest.  It's no different than if EA or Activision gave "funding" to a gaming news site right before that site wrote something positive about them.  That would be up for public discussion, as well, and rightly so.