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sony knows how much they shipped. shipped =/= sold to consumers.

Sony was clear enough "sold through to consumers "  Are you saying that Sony are liars ?



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Fusioncode said:
Wait are people actually accusing Sony of lying about the numbers? Oh God we're reaching new levels of delusion.

ha, sony lies about everything all the time. the rarity is when they tell the truth.



I'm sorry but is ioi implying that Sony lied about 10 million and vgchartz numbers are more accurate?



hailblaze said:
Fusioncode said:
Wait are people actually accusing Sony of lying about the numbers? Oh God we're reaching new levels of delusion.

ha, sony lies about everything all the time. the rarity is when they tell the truth.

Who's alt is this? That you zero999!



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Silver.eyes said:
Locknuts said:
I can't believe what I've read so far in this thread. Could we get a link on the front page of VGChartz to the policy on hardware numbers and how they're calculated? The ignorance amongst members here is astounding.

If they just create numbers 'because Sony said so', there goes their credibility and consistency. Sony's numbers would be estimates too.

As others have said, I also can't believe how polite the mods have been. VGChartz have their methods. If you don't like them, then that's your problem, not theirs.

yeah, I just can't see how sony could know about numbers sould to consumers, two days after. sure, they have a lock on shipped numbers but not sold through.

And this Site could over Sony?

Because that is what you and others are claiming, that this sites "projection data" is more accurate than a Company that has restock orders by distribution requesting more units for retail chain stores. That need more units because they Sold through units!

Right now in this very site many are outright Questioning Sony's Numbers but would not batt an eye if it was Nintendo or Microsoft. This is not even a question about that many feel Sony on this site is not as transparent with number's as it is with Nintendo and Microsoft.

the thing you can't claim worldwide tracking sales being more accurate then any other tracking site that has no worldwide tracking capability they only choose one region for a reason !



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Well Sony risks getting sued for publishing incorrect numbers as it amounts to false advertising. There is no way an MNC like Sony which probably has huge legal team release numbers like that unless they were sure of its relative accuracy.

If there are discrepancies and 600k would be huge one, competitors would have latched on to it, and the numbers would have been questioned in major publications by now.



He gives a reasonable explanation to why they haven´t updated the numbers YET. He should have given this explanation for the 360 numbers aswell, just yo calm some of us down :).

We have very good tracking in alot of countries so the question remains; where are those 600k in sales?



COX said:

sony knows how much they shipped. shipped =/= sold to consumers.

Sony was clear enough "sold through to consumers "  Are you saying that Sony are liars ?


They have been known to bend/spin the truth when it suits them 

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2007/01/6584/

http://www.crappyreviews.com/gaming-news-and-notes/shame-on-sony-for-lying-to-consumers




Ka-pi96 said:

What like when someone sued them for not having enough pixels? Yeah like that would go well... it's not even possible to call it false advertising as it isn't an advertisement, unless you think people specifically stated they would only ever buy a PS4 if 10 million people had bought one before them?


Oooh, do you know how that 1080p lawsuit went? Has it been completed? Who won? I lolled so hard so I just want to know the result

OT: I think Sony may be bending their numbers slightly (perhaps 100k or so), but regardless, VGChartz is undertracked by ~500k.