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Forums - Sales Discussion - July 2014 NPD Thread! PS4: 187k, XBO: 131k, Wii U: 81k

jlmurph2 said:
Conegamer said:

Very true; well at least people can be happier for at least another month!

Makes me wonder how far off we must be in Rest of World though


Missing 700k in just 3 months from Rest of the World + EU according to Sony.

Nah it's actually closer to 550k. We're missing a week here.



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Shadow1980 said:
I hate how NPD is so damn secretive about their numbers. Famitsu has been publicly releasing weekly sales figures for Japan since the 90s, and Media Create has been doing so since 2002. But for NPD we always have to rely on third party sources for numbers. Why? It's just sales figures for video games, not plans for a top-secret military project. It gets even worse the further back you go in time. Nothing for the NES, SMS, or TG-16 exists, and I haven't been able to get anything for the SNES and Genesis prior to 1993 or anything for the Game Boy and Game Gear prior to 1995. Is it really that important to the NPD that the public doesn't know how much the Genesis started selling when Sonic came out, or how big the launch month of the TurboGrafx-16 was?



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Ninsect said:
jlmurph2 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Nope. Just quite shocking!


Its just weird to me though. We're getting numbers from the 3 biggest markets yet over 700k just slips through the cracks in about 3 months?

We're not getting numbers from Europe? Hell, the only numbers we have got recently from there (Germany) showed heavy undertracking.

Ok but exactly how much of that 70k undertracking is from April 2014-August? I would assume not much.



jlmurph2 said:
Ninsect said:
jlmurph2 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Nope. Just quite shocking!


Its just weird to me though. We're getting numbers from the 3 biggest markets yet over 700k just slips through the cracks in about 3 months?

We're not getting numbers from Europe? Hell, the only numbers we have got recently from there (Germany) showed heavy undertracking.

Ok but exactly how much of that 70k undertracking is from April 2014-August? I would assume not much.

I would assume quite a bit since we previously got numbers from Germany for 2013 (launch sales), when the gap between X1 and PS4 was relatively quite a bit smaller there. This year it's been like 5:1 or worse.



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ps4 is overtracked on vgc for the usa

ps4 ltd as of 2. august = 3754k


so only ~38% (+~50k sales for first august week) of that 10m announcement are usa sales
now im really curious where that 10m sales come from...


japan ps4 ltd sales as of 10. august = 659k
so only 45,5% of world wide ps4 sales are from us + japan



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prinz_valium said:

ps4 is overtracked on vgc for the usa

ps4 ltd as of 2. august = 3754k


so only ~38% (+~50k sales for first august week) of that 10m announcement are usa sales
now im really curious where that 10m sales come from...


japan ps4 ltd sales as of 10. august = 659k
so only 45,5% of world wide ps4 sales are from us + japan

The power of being a world wide brand.



Ninsect said:

I would assume quite a bit since we previously got numbers from Germany for 2013 (launch sales), when the gap between X1 and PS4 was relatively quite a bit smaller there. This year it's been like 5:1 or worse.


not, ur wrong

 

end of 2013 sales for germany

ps4: 250k

xb1: 100k

 

end of june 2014 sales

ps4: 540k

xb1: 170k

 

end of 2013 sales ratio: 2,5:1

ltd end of june 2014 sales ratio: 3,18:1

ytd end of june 2014 sales ratio: 4,14:1

 



prinz_valium said:
Ninsect said:
 

I would assume quite a bit since we previously got numbers from Germany for 2013 (launch sales), when the gap between X1 and PS4 was relatively quite a bit smaller there. This year it's been like 5:1 or worse.


not, ur wrong

 

end of 2013 sales for germany

ps4: 250k

xb1: 100k

 

end of june 2014 sales

ps4: 540k

xb1: 170k

 

end of 2013 sales ratio: 2,5:1

ltd end of june 2014 sales ratio: 3,18:1

ytd end of june 2014 sales ratio: 4,14:1

 

Well 4.14:1 and getting worse. Not that far off



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prinz_valium said:

ps4 is overtracked on vgc for the usa

ps4 ltd as of 2. august = 3754k


so only ~38% (+~50k sales for first august week) of that 10m announcement are usa sales
now im really curious where that 10m sales come from...


japan ps4 ltd sales as of 10. august = 659k
so only 45,5% of world wide ps4 sales are from us + japan

Which is extremely normal for a playstation console and is as to be expected



Ninsect said:
prinz_valium said:
Ninsect said:
 

I would assume quite a bit since we previously got numbers from Germany for 2013 (launch sales), when the gap between X1 and PS4 was relatively quite a bit smaller there. This year it's been like 5:1 or worse.


not, ur wrong

 

end of 2013 sales for germany

ps4: 250k

xb1: 100k

 

end of june 2014 sales

ps4: 540k

xb1: 170k

 

end of 2013 sales ratio: 2,5:1

ltd end of june 2014 sales ratio: 3,18:1

ytd end of june 2014 sales ratio: 4,14:1

 

Well 4.14:1 and getting worse. Not that far off

 

not sure, if it will get even more worse

if xb1 managed 250k  (would be very low becaus would be only 10k more than first half year) end of 2014, ps need 1.25m units for 5:1

if xb1 managed 300k (only 130k with pricecut, bundles and the strong second half year)  ps need 1.5m for a 5:1 ratio

 

so ps4 need to sell 710k or even more units the second half of 2014

thats not easy to achive