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LudicrousSpeed said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

The fact that it is relative, that it changes with each context its in, means its not a valid definition, or at the very least its a definition with a crap load of clauses.

Since when has this not been the case? Even Microsoft and Sony use terms like "console exclusive" and "timed exclusive".

As PR.

A defintion should remain true in all contexts.

Nah, doesn't work that way.

Notice I said should, the issue is that the context are similar enough that it makes nosense to justify them differenly.

If it changes because of what you are comparing it to, then the definition could be anything you want. If you compare the Sky to something in the Ultraviolet, you can say the Sky is much redder, and you wouldn't be wrong but the context would be subjective and the obseration meaningless.

Cool beans. Doesn't pertain to games though.

Of course it does, its an example you can't throw it out just because I didn't replace Sky with Flow and Ultraviolet with Red Dead Redemption.

I mean, using your logic, you could say every game was exclusive to any platform if you compare it to say an Ouya or a mobile phone, let alone against itself.

When you have to make a reach like that, I know I am right.

Except the Ouya is a gaming platform and so is mobile so how exactly am I reaching? Its not like I compared it to a Car.

Just the context that I'm speaking from is the Objective one which compares a game on every platform in the industry, if a game is on more than one platform, its a Multiplat a.k.a multiple platforms, if its only on one platform, its an exclusive.

That works fine when you're comparing the exclusive library of all platforms. When you're not, there is room for other games. Again, even Microsoft and Sony do this.

Like I said, if your not comparing it to everything then it is subjective, and meaningless when discussing the denotations of things.

The only difference, between a multiplat and "Console Exclusive", as I've explained in another thread, is simply the conotation.

The only things that really matters when comparing a multiplat to a "console exclusive" are the consoles being compared.

There is no difference between a console exclusive and a multiplat, they are in fact the same thing.

The title of Exclusive holds a lot more prestige then Multiplat, even though "Console Exclusive" and Multiplat describe the exact same thing. A buzzword that grants a Multiplat some of the prestige of an exclusive, although its not as prestigious as an actual exclusive.

lol @ prestige. Sounds like you might be the one taking list warz a bit too seriously.

Prestige is simply a word that describes how valuable something is, Exclusives are understood as more valuable, at least to the platform, then a Multiplat is yes?

Similar to how a sqaure is a fancy type of rectangle, your "Console Exclusive" is just a fancy type of Multiplat.

Awesome!

So you agree with what I'm saying, because you can't refute sound logic.







In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
JayWood2010 said:

 

Its simple to understand, but its also wrong.

 

Im not even going to read beyond this point.  You can not change how the industry works just because you have a different belief.  If you want to believe differently then you can, but you also know exactly what people means when they say the things they do so stop the pointless arguments.  I see you guilty of this a lot.  Stop treating your opinions as facts. Im sure you will reply, i wont be reading it and whatever gif or picture that you post.




       

Is it available on 2 different consoles? It's not exclusive. Screw all this console, sony, ms or toaster exclusive. It's just not exclusive. Even forget about time exclusive. It is just an exclusive until it releases on another console.

And to whoever asked above TLOU is not an exclusive anymore.

Console wars are getting tiring.



An exclusive is ammunition.



Multiplataform - Game on more than one system/platform

Exclusive - Game on a single platform


Console exclusive - Game that is on a single console, but it's available on other platforms that aren't consoles. It's a subtype of multiplat.

Timed exclusive - Game that is exclusive at launch and some time after that it becomes multiplat.

Company exclusive - Game that is available only in consoles of a single company.


I think it's pretty easy.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

So you agree with what I'm saying, because you can't refute sound logic.

No, I just respect that you have your own opinion, which I am not going to change. Nor am I going to bother engaging in your session of reductio ad absurdum (which is what your examples of the sky and the Ouya were, go ahead and look it up), either :) You have fun trying to tell people they are wrong because you disagree though.







JayWood2010 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
JayWood2010 said:

 

Its simple to understand, but its also wrong.

 

Im not even going to read beyond this point.  You can not change how the industry works just because you have a different belief.  If you want to believe differently then you can, but you also know exactly what people means when they say the things they do so stop the pointless arguments.  I see you guilty of this a lot.  Stop treating your opinions as facts. Im sure you will reply, i wont be reading it and whatever gif or picture that you post.

Of course I will reply, I don't do so for my benefit, I do it for yours. If you choose not to read it and remain ignorant, then that is an unfortunate loss. And I am not posting my opinions as facts, I am posting facts as facts. Whenever I post my opinion I do well to admit that. There was literally, a thread where I made an opinion, admitted I was wrong and and got flamebaited until I was banned for losing my temper eventually, but you see, that won't be happening anymore.

Regardless, this is not an opinion this is fact. Its not a matter of different contesting beliefs, this is fact versus beleif. Many beleived the Sun orbited the Earth, it is fact that the Earth orbits the Sun.

In the same way, Multiplat defines multiple platforms. While Exclusive defines more than one platform.

I even gave you a concession, I flat out told you, that rather than saying a console exlusive is this and that and this and that, I said no don't bother with that just say its exclusive to a brand, that covers all the bases and every single example of a console exclusive, but even then, is their any possible way you can make a distinction between this and other multiplats? No, because even if you can give me an example of a multiplat being on many examples, I can give you three that are multiplats that would also be defined as Console Multiplats by your definition.

So they are the same thing.

People seem to think that everyone on the internet has this stupid mentality of just spouting their argument and disagreeing with others for the heck of it. I see that as pointless, why not correct mistakes as the appear and have everyone learn from them.

I've been banned 10 times in the last 4 months, do you not think I am not learning from each and every single one of them? Please if you have any counter to my argument, show me where I have made a mistake, its meaningless to just dismiss my argument because of prior posts, or because it differs from your own point.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

LudicrousSpeed said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

So you agree with what I'm saying, because you can't refute sound logic.

No, I just respect that you have your own opinion, which I am not going to change. Nor am I going to bother engaging in your session of reductio ad absurdum, either :) You have fun trying to tell people they are wrong because you disagree though.

But its not an opinion, you just want to dismiss it as opinion because you cannot refute it.

Can you show how

A. A game on multple platforms is not an multiplat?

B. A game on multiple platforms is an exclusive?

and C. a multiplat is not a console exclusive?

I mean, I even let you keep that term, but is there anyway for you to divorce a console exclusive meaningly from the category of multiplats?

Realize that a gaming platform describes any device on which a game can be played, while a console brand is the brand of a set of consoles under a single manufacturer. So the term Multiplat, short for multiple platforms, has absolutely nothing to do with a console's brand.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Realize that a gaming platform describes any device on which a game can be played, while a console brand is the brand of a set of consoles under a single manufacturer.

You're blowing my mind here.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Realize that a gaming platform describes any device on which a game can be played, while a console brand is the brand of a set of consoles under a single manufacturer.

You're blowing my mind here.

In other words.

The DS would be a platform.

The Nintendo Entertainment System, the Super Nintendo Entertainment System, the Nintendo 64, the Nintendo Gameboy, the Nintendo Gamecube, the Nintendo Gameboy Advance, the Nintendo Wii, the Nintendo DS, the Nintendo 3DS, and the Nintendo Wii U would be the set of consoles that the Nintendo Console brand consists of barring derivative version such as the GBC and the 2DS.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank