| kowenicki said: Like this you mean?
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Using a failed venture to make your point is actually counter-productive. Onlive proves why that model potentially wouldn't work, not the other way around.
| kowenicki said: Like this you mean?
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Using a failed venture to make your point is actually counter-productive. Onlive proves why that model potentially wouldn't work, not the other way around.
Neodegenerate said:
The target audience for PSNow is not the hardcore market. They are simply using us to determine the pricing structure through their beta programs before they roll it out to the target: casual gamers and people who don't currently own consoles. Those people aren't experiencing any of these woes as they don't actually go to gaming websites or care about what happened in beta. They will care when they see the advertising and the actual pricing. Any damage this is causing is going to be minimal at best in regards to their target audience. |
yeah, because nobody but the hardcore people heard about the terrible x1 reveal because they don't visit gaming websites? ...or not.
They could have kept it as a closed beta if they weren't sure about pricing, but they decided to open it up to everybody. That means that they don't plan to make too many changes to the the service, not matter what they say. They could and probably will add a subscription model in the future because I don't think there will be much money coming in with this pricing structure.
Much like playstation home, they are just launching it to the public and using the term "beta" to hide behind its shortcomings. It is the exact same tactic. My point is they should have just waited until they had the right approach before they opened it up to everybody. Because just like playstation home, I think playstation now is going to get so much bad press that it is going to be sunk before it can take off.
gergroy said:
yeah, because nobody but the hardcore people heard about the terrible x1 reveal because they don't visit gaming websites? ...or not. They could have kept it as a closed beta if they weren't sure about pricing, but they decided to open it up to everybody. That means that they don't plan to make too many changes to the the service, not matter what they say. They could and probably will add a subscription model in the future because I don't think there will be much money coming in with this pricing structure. Much like playstation home, they are just launching it to the public and using the term "beta" to hide behind its shortcomings. It is the exact same tactic. My point is they should have just waited until they had the right approach before they opened it up to everybody. Because just like playstation home, I think playstation now is going to get so much bad press that it is going to be sunk before it can take off. |
Man what a moronic argument, it's a free market..no one is FORCED to buy anything it's how it works, if it's too costly the market will force sony to adjust. Grasp at straws much?
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Lol owned!
Anyways I thought onLive was dead? |
Oh man! I was so owned by a service that A. isn't lucrative with its model (read they burned through $5 million a month with 1800 concurrent users) and B. had shitty framerates, low resolution, and bad input lag.
Sick burn, Kowen. It totally wouldn't have been a better experience if they charged more to maintain the service. I'm gonna head to the nearest burn center and apply water to the affected areas.
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Neodegenerate said:
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Yep, but he's not too smart, he is the same guy that said Price was 95% of the reason ps4 was selling better and X1 had Uk and Us on lockdown deal with it. He's blindd by MS, he likes it from behind from MS .
BMaker11 said:
That's on you if you decide to go out and just get a PS3 and get the games on the cheap. PSNow isn't targeted for you then. And you're right, internet speeds don't vary based on how much money you have. I kinda assumed that if you had all the stuff, you probably have good internet. Didn't take into consideration location. But if you're in a situation like that....you're just kinda SOL aren't you? No need to single out PSNow. You wouldn't be doing any kind of streaming, if you have crappy internet. From Sept 2012 - July 2013, I was in an apartment (in a major city mind you) but for some real AT&T U-Verse was "not a serviceable area"...even though my buddy who lived in the same neighborhood just a on the other side of the neighborhood had it. All we could get was "AT&T High Speed DSL" topping out at 768Kbps (yea...you read that right). I didn't curse Hulu and Netflix and worry about whether the service was good, and how it affected people in my situation. And I definitely didn't keep paying for it. I just cancelled Hulu until I moved to a place where I could get better internet. PSNow is the same way. |
I started with dial up so you didn't have it as bad as I did. Now I have 20Mbps which isn't the best but works for me and will be upgrading to 50dl soon. I do have the speed for PS now but I don't see a reason why to use it unless they bring a subscription like deal then I might consider. I was not trying to downplay PS now, simply said the prices are pretty high. Prices should be lower than actually going out and buying the game used. Give people a reason why they should choose your service or offer options. A subscription with restrictions or pay per title if you want to go that way. That would seem fair IMO.
MentalDancing said:
Man what a moronic argument, it's a free market..no one is FORCED to buy anything it's how it works, if it's too costly the market will force sony to adjust. Grasp at straws much? |
sure, no one is forced to buy anything. I'm talking about first impressions and how it can sink a new service. It has happened before, I even used examples.
Like the x1, microsoft was forced to adjust to a bunch of stuff with the xbox one. Is it now selling at the level of the ps4? No? why is that?
kowenicki said:
I dont see this as trampling on consumer rights, not at all. Neither was MS. They are options, nobody is forced to take them. That kind of talk is silly. No, I am merely commenting on the value aspect. I like the idea of a streaming service. I want it to come soon and for retail discs to vanish, hence I liked the original ONE model and obvious direction. But streaming should be a sub model. Ps. Onlive still exists.
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LMAo and your one sided shows, onlive was and is a massive money losing venture, you only helped his argument not yours. It should be what the market accepts not what some MS shill says ona forum.
Everything Ms did was anti-consumer, and way worse then anything anyone else in gaming has tried.
PS: You can take away physical disks without trampling on rights like MS did. MS is one of the worst anti-consumer companies around.
kowenicki said:
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What a joke coming from one of the most biased, condescending fanboys of a system I have ever seen. How about MS owning Uk and US? How's that working out for you?
kowenicki said:
I dont realise, thanks for filling me in. In that case...you are right, they best stick to an unattractive pricing strructure to limit take up. |
Other then the 2.99 for 4 hours, how is 7.99 for 7 days and 14.99 for a month bad???? Redbox does Ok with that no? oh wait sony system got ya.