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Who wins in the end?

Wii 314 73.19%
 
PS3 114 26.57%
 
Total:428

Absolutely, positively, and unequivocally... No.

Trust me, I've been to the future so I know how it plays out. But fear not, Sony fans... the Playstation 4 does go on to win this generation. :D



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To me, I feel like gamers are going to continue to prioritize buying a PS4 over a PS3. If they do buy a PS3, it will likely be second-hand.



Zekkyou said:
Smeags said:
Let's assume that the Wii stops selling today. No more units sold.

The PS3 is 18,100,000 units behind the Wii (according to VGC).

So for the PS3 to catch the Wii...

it would need to sell 174,038 units a week for 2 years to catch up.
it would need to sell 116,025 units a week for 3 years to catch up.
it would need to sell 87,019 units a week for 4 years to catch up.

The PS3 is currently selling at half that last number (44,781) which would make it almost 8 years for PS3 to catch the Wii.

I'm going to say no.

I can't see the PS3 managing it (i'm guessing 95m absolute max, more likely around 90m), but using its current sales as a reference isn't the right way of going about it. Not only are we in the summer, but the PS3 is still priced at $230 for the absolute cheapest model (12GB Super Slim). That's pretty damn expensive when your 7 years younger successor launched at $400 (500GB).

The holidays + a major price cut could generate months of summer sales in a single week. It's those kind of things we need to consider when predicting the chances of it passing the Wii, not its sales during the worst time of year with an unreasonable price tag.

It really doesn't matter in the PS3's case.

First off, the BOM will only allow the console's price to drop so far.  Spending money toward a smaller nm process to get costs down seems counterproductive at this point.  I don't know if we'll ever see a $149 PS3 and I'd certainly bet against $129.

Secondly, the 7th gen lasted longer than any gen before it.  Now that the 8th gen is in full swing, last gen is dropping like a rock.  There's only so much interest left and what there is has to be split to some degree with the 360.  Unlike its predecessor, the PS3 doesn't have that kind of after-gen selling power.

The only possible hope is in emerging markets, but I really don't see 10m+ of the console's install base coming from this demographic.

It'll reach 90m, maybe a bit more, but 100m just isn't in the cards, IMO.



BraLoD said:
archbrix said:
Absolutely, positively, and unequivocally... No.

Trust me, I've been to the future so I know how it plays out. But fear not, Sony fans... the Playstation 4 does go on to win this generation. :D

You came from the future? How far? 2020? I might just lock my thread then =/ lol.

Nah, don't do that.  Some good discussion coming from it and you're respectful of other people's opinions.



At least the Wii has The Last Story.



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BraLoD said:
DialgaMarine said:
I'm gonna say Wii will finish in first. I mean it's possible for PS3 to catch up, but highly unlikely. PS4 is preventing it.


PS4 is indeed the worst enemy PS3 have to achive 100M

 It's ironic too. A lot of people were assuming the PS3 would do to PS4 what PS2 did to PS3, ie make it have a very slow start, but it's kindof been the opposite. Most cross gen games are already selling way better on PS4, despite the relatively small install base. I guess PS4 really is the true successor to PS2.





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BraLoD said:
prayformojo said:
BraLoD said:
fireburn95 said:
By win, do you mean sell more?


Yes.


I don't consider who ever finished with more units during a gen the automatic "winner." I consider what happened while said gen was active. For instance, the SNES did not pass the Genesis until the Sega had created new hardware. So, basically, the Genesis won that generation. The Wii outsold the PS3 and Xbox 360 within the years of 2006-2012 which were the years that generation lasted. Once the Wii-U dropped, that generation was over and we were in a new one.


Well, consoles have different lifespawn, you can't blame any for having more or less time in the market as the others, if that wasn't the case the PS2 would be in the same class as the PS1 and the Wii with around 100M units moved in it's so called gen, but PS2 raised it's numbers to almost 160M within the next generation already going over... so well, if the PS3, by any chance, pass the Wii within some more years it will have sold more and it will be a fact, but people can say that in the same time Wii sold better than the PS3 too.


Think of it like an actual race. If you have three people racing eachother in a 100M race, and the winner crosses the 100M mark, he/she is the winner. Correct? In the console industry, that's how it works as well. The difference is, the other two (PS3 and Xbox 360) kept running for another 20M. That doesn't mean the Wii didn't win. It just means the other two kept running after the race was over.

The same can be applied to all generations. When the 360 launched, the 6th generation was affectively over. 



prayformojo said:

Think of it like an actual race. If you have three people racing eachother in a 100M race, and the winner crosses the 100M mark, he/she is the winner. Correct? In the console industry, that's how it works as well. The difference is, the other two (PS3 and Xbox 360) kept running for another 20M. That doesn't mean the Wii didn't win. It just means the other two kept running after the race was over.

So why is it a 100M race? Why not 110M? Why not 120M? Why not the 157M of the previous race? Who sets that limit? And what if you have three people racing each other in a 157M race and none of them reaches that finish line?

It's not a race with an arbitrary distance, it's a competition for the longest distance. World record, guinness book,...

prayformojo said:

The same can be applied to all generations. When the 360 launched, the 6th generation was affectively over. 

No. Which sales numbers are usually referenced when looking back to PS2, Xbox and GameCube? Their total sales (157M, 25M, 22M) or only their sales up to the launch of the xbox360 (100M, 24M, 20M)?



Um, no...
Mathematically, it's impossible. At 50,000 sales weekly, you'd need 340 weeks to get to 100 million now that Ps3 is at 83 million. 340 weeks is 6~7 years. That would make the Ps3 the longest selling platform(Period wise) ever, which is highly unlikely. Plus, as the weeks go Ps3's sales are decreasing, that is just enough to show anyone that it's impossible to reach the Wii now. As for how much will it sell by the end of it's lifetime, i gues it would be 85~90 mil.
Oh... and the answer again is.... no



icykai said:
Um, no...
Mathematically, it's impossible. At 50,000 sales weekly, you'd need 340 weeks to get to 100 million now that Ps3 is at 83 million. 340 weeks is 6~7 years.

Do you really think, PS3 sales will stay at 50,000 weekly in November and December 2014? You can't base your averages on the slowest weeks of the year.