so how is xbox one going to sell 11-13 million? i dont really think you answered that question

I don't think anyone with at least half a brain would argue with that..

i know its off topic, but could someone post a graph or link to the GC vs. Wii U sales? I'm curious to see what the gap is.

Even during holiday. I can see Destiny on X1 outsell MK8 two or three weeks from release (which is in september), maybe even longer, but not during holiday.

1) since kicnect was dichet, why does it not realese sooner then?

2) The game that is. But the ps4 bundle is higher than either the game for xbox and the xbox on its own and the ps4 bundle is tracked separetly then the plain ps4 wich is also higher the xbox, so there are 2 peorders for the ps4 consoles and both are super higher then both the 2 difernt xbox sku's.

3) So why did it not sell then after the new sku released? And all thouse other games have sold better onn the ps4, and when they released the ps4 saw a much higher boost then the x1.

4) So I listed a bunch of games and you can only say that xbox has a fighting game, wich sold crap I think. wasen even a AAA game it was like a $20 indi i think, and UFC wich did not move many consoles as well so your point is moot. Why dont you show me an equivelant to the bolded games.

5) nearly identical well thats good. I inmagine when people go to a game stop and ask wich console looks better and the clerk says ps4, but x1 is close, wich you think the customer will buy? Customers will choose 1080p over 1000p. And as good as it will get, it will never match the ps4 due to the hardware limitation the x1 has.

6) I agree with you. But you previously stated that the x1 will have the supreme holliday wich will be over double the wii u. I expect them both to be about the same with the ps4 to be wii u + x1 combined.

7) An opinion of mine, it holds no merit. You have every right to lauff.

You did thaught me something, That you will only compare things in a vacum wherethe x1 does have an advantage, but as long as the ps4 is around thouse advantages will only move ps4's and not x1, after you compare whats left, the wii u is ahead.

X1 still being out sold by the wii u as of the 19th of july. So since no major realease since destiny the x1 will continue on the decline. Since the only thing coming to the wii u is som sport club game the boos will be minimal, maybe just enough to slow down the the decreasing baseline untill hyrule warriors comes out.

Are you kidding me. A 100 dollar price cut barely made any boost to Xbox one sales. Meanwhile one game for the Wii u raised its baseline to 60k. The Xbox one is the only console in the market now which people have no reason to buy.

it all made some sense, until the conclusion, no way the XB1 will sell 10 million by years end, it still has not doubled the 3 million sales it did on launch!

And for third party titles, the problem is that despite them being on the xb1, their best console version is on the PS4 (in some cases they're equal or barely different, in other cases the xb1 version has lower resolution/frame rate or is broken in some other way)... no matter what you think of the gap, it's there and people will buy the better console to run the games they want, everything else is scemantics.

As for the exclusives, I would say that Nintendo's exclusives are able to deliver real console sales bump, something that MS's titles have proven unable to do so far.

So, I think the xb1 will continue to sell more on most weeks (globally) but I would argue that it will not catch up to the Wii U weekly sales wise, not until mid 2015 at best, if it ever does, Nintendo are some sneaky bastards (MS are way too serious and businessy, as opposed to playful, into their approach to "fun"... Nintendo will come up with truly surprising games like splatoon, or they'll associate themselves to them).

As for total sales, it may just never happen.

Destiny will sell well on Xbox One, but it won't push systems the way Mario Kart 8 did. People that want to buy a console to play Destiny will most likely purchase a PS4. Destiny has been frequently marketed with the PS4, there is a white PS4 destiny edition bundle, and PS4 owners get the DLC like a year ahead of XBOX owners.

I will however say that if you are a HUGE Halo fan like me you'd say f#$% DLC and buy an XBOX ONE for the Master Chief Collection (which will be a HUGE system seller).

I think WII U sales and XBOX ONE sales will for the most part be neck and neck for the rest of the year(with the obvious exception of MCC week and Smash Bros Week).