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Mr Puggsly on 20 July 2014
michael_stutzer said:
Yeah, create all that high quality assets and effects only to get buried with the pathetic resolution. Quite an idea, I wonder why it doesn't get picked up by the developers.


To some people 30 fps is more pathetic.



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Raziel123 on 20 July 2014
Mr Puggsly said:


To some people 30 fps is more pathetic.


And what is 720p/30fps to those people?

And we've already been over how low res wouldn't turn 30fps into 60fps.



Teeqoz on 20 July 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
Captain_Tom said:
1) The difference is massive.

2) Without 1080p, you won't be able to see the extra detail. Metro 2033 on ultra looks no different than medium if you play it below 900p.

1 is subjective.

2 is bullshit. This is kinda like saying PS3 and PS4 look the same on a 720p TV. You don't need 1080p resolution to notice higher polygon models, better lighting, smoother frame rate, etc.


You would definetly notice that, but wouldn't your framerate be smoother if you are playing on medium?



Mr Puggsly on 20 July 2014
Zekkyou said:
Mr Puggsly said:


Its fantastic, but comes in sacrfice of the frame rate.

Also, The Order is 1920x800p for even more polished visuals while maintaining 30 fps. It should be noted that's a resolution with a pixel count slightly above 900p.

The Order going for 1920x800 was a genuine design choice (those movie bars). Previously i thought that claim was bullshit, but when they announced they were pushing 4xMSAA they somewhat confirms it as true. 1920 x 800 + 4xMSAA is about the resource equivalent of 1920 x 1080 + standard post processing.

They also extended the horizontal render view to make up for what is lost is the bars. They seem to be doing every they can to nullify the benefit of a lower pixel count

You could argue they did it to get better IQ, but that would be a pretty small gain unless you wanted that odd screen design in the first place.

I repeat, "The Order is 1920x800p for even more polished visuals while maintaining 30 fps"

Hence, they went with a sub-1080p resolution and that gave them resources to apply elsewhere. That's generally why developers make games sub-1080p.



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Mr Puggsly on 20 July 2014
Raziel123 said:
Mr Puggsly said:


To some people 30 fps is more pathetic.


And what is 720p/30fps to those people?

And we've already been over how low res wouldn't turn 30fps into 60fps.

I'm referring to the games that obviously chose 1080p over 60 fps.

A lower resolution can indeed turn turn some 30 fps games to 60 fps.



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DrDoomz on 20 July 2014

Devs are the ones best suited at determining what resolution their engines woukd look best in. I'd much rather trust them and just let em run the games at the resolution/frame rate/etc they want it to. For as long as I know they optimized the game to run at its best possible appearance and I have the machine beat suited to run it, I'm happy. And yes, I also own a really gaming PC.

Which is why I hate graphics parity. Knowingly gimping graphics performance of a game so that it can let the slower fatter console to catch up annoys me.



Raziel123 on 20 July 2014
Mr Puggsly said:

I'm referring to the games that obviously chose 1080p over 60 fps.

A lower resolution can indeed turn turn some 30 fps games to 60 fps.


No it can't. We've been over that.



Mr Puggsly on 20 July 2014
Teeqoz said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Captain_Tom said:
1) The difference is massive.

2) Without 1080p, you won't be able to see the extra detail. Metro 2033 on ultra looks no different than medium if you play it below 900p.

1 is subjective.

2 is bullshit. This is kinda like saying PS3 and PS4 look the same on a 720p TV. You don't need 1080p resolution to notice higher polygon models, better lighting, smoother frame rate, etc.


You would definetly notice that, but wouldn't your framerate be smoother if you are playing on medium?

Uhhhh..... if the cap is 60 fps and that's achieved on max setttings, no.



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etking on 20 July 2014

I prefer 20FPS@1080p over 60FPS@720p. Resolution and texture detail are much more important to me than frame rate. Even on the N64, I always enabled hires mode because it looked a million times better.



Mr Puggsly on 20 July 2014
Raziel123 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I'm referring to the games that obviously chose 1080p over 60 fps.

A lower resolution can indeed turn turn some 30 fps games to 60 fps.


No it can't. We've been over that.

Well go over it again. Putting resources into a high resolution leaves less for frame rate.

Are you seriously not aware of this? Have you ever adjusted the settings on PC games?



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