| Ka-pi96 said: 15k? Well it is better than 14k |
Well, shit! I can't argue with that! :-/
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It's interesting looking at the numbers excluding the Nov-Dec launches of Xbox One and PS4 -
They're both trending well below PS2 / WIi, in 2014, including years we don't think of as strong for either - PS2 in 2001 - good year, but not spectacular or historic, Wii in 2007, 2010, 2011 - good years - not historic. I
PS2 in H1 07 - 1.53m
PS2 in H1 06 - 1.69m
PS2 in H1 05 - 2.48m
PS2 in H1 04 - 1.85m
PS2 in H1 03 - 2.31m
PS2 in H1 01 - 1.98m
Those were all good but not huge years - roughly 4m to 6m years.
Wii in H1 11 - 1.74m
Wii in H1 07 - 2.11m
The Wii years I've cited are similar too - and also imply 4-6m.
X360 also did 2.4m in H1 2011 - when it sold >7m for the year. So to me, overall the numbers imply about a 5m year for PS4 - strong - but not anywhere near what the launch year suggested was possible.
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| TheSource said: It's interesting looking at the numbers excluding the Nov-Dec launches of Xbox One and PS4 - They're both trending well below PS2 / WIi, in 2014, including years we don't think of as strong for either - PS2 in 2001 - good year, but not spectacular or historic, Wii in 2007, 2010, 2011 - good years - not historic. I PS2 in H1 07 - 1.53m PS2 in H1 06 - 1.69m PS2 in H1 05 - 2.48m PS2 in H1 04 - 1.85m PS2 in H1 03 - 2.31m PS2 in H1 01 - 1.98m Those were all good but not huge years - roughly 4m to 6m years. Wii in H1 11 - 1.74m Wii in H1 07 - 2.11m The Wii years I've cited are similar too - and also imply 4-6m. X360 also did 2.4m in H1 2011 - when it sold >7m for the year. So to me, overall the numbers imply about a 5m year for PS4 - strong - but not anywhere near what the launch year suggested was possible. |
2008/2009 were huge for the wii
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| TheSource said: It's interesting looking at the numbers excluding the Nov-Dec launches of Xbox One and PS4 - They're both trending well below PS2 / WIi, in 2014, including years we don't think of as strong for either - PS2 in 2001 - good year, but not spectacular or historic, Wii in 2007, 2010, 2011 - good years - not historic. I PS2 in H1 07 - 1.53m PS2 in H1 06 - 1.69m PS2 in H1 05 - 2.48m PS2 in H1 04 - 1.85m PS2 in H1 03 - 2.31m PS2 in H1 01 - 1.98m Those were all good but not huge years - roughly 4m to 6m years. Wii in H1 11 - 1.74m Wii in H1 07 - 2.11m The Wii years I've cited are similar too - and also imply 4-6m. X360 also did 2.4m in H1 2011 - when it sold >7m for the year. So to me, overall the numbers imply about a 5m year for PS4 - strong - but not anywhere near what the launch year suggested was possible. |
PS4 also has probably the least amount of "next gen only" games in console transition history.
Once Uncharted and the other big next gen only game arrive it will pick back up again. There are still many people waiting.
| Ka-pi96 said: I do. But I prefer Xbox One and PS4. IMO Wii U selling well would be bad, then Nintendo would think they are right and make another Wii. If Wii U sells bad then they might think they need to change some things up and come out with a much much better console next time. Sorry to those that like the Wii U the way it is though... |
I've never thought about it that way before, but of course, that makes sense.
So, since I don't really care for the PS4 Ior the XBOX One for that matter) I will from now on wish nothing but bad luck and setbacks for Sony, and most of their studios as well. That way if the PS4 hopefully does another halfing of it's sales and stays (well) below 35 million total sold LTD. Hopefully, all upcoming software from Naughty Dog and similar studios will also bomb hard. That way maybe Sony will earn a lesson and create hardware and software that I'd like better.
Though luck for anyone happy with the PS4 though, but as long as I get two platforms that cater to my personal taste I don't care what happens to anyone else.
BenVTrigger said:
Once Uncharted and the other big next gen only game arrive it will pick back up again. There are still many people waiting. |
bloodbourne,order 66,driveclub?! but its sadly true i mean 1st party is sparse heck both are sparse only 1 first party for both have release this year(infamous, and kinect sports rivals(1 flop and 1 was massive) heck even wii u had barely any exclusives(donkey kong and mario kart) 2014 is pathetic gaming wise so far
i didnt include titanfall since it is also on pc/xbox 360
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(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.
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Raichu's First Series:
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| BenVTrigger said: PS4 also has probably the least amount of "next gen only" games in console transition history. Once Uncharted and the other big next gen only game arrive it will pick back up again. There are still many people waiting. |
Is that true though Ben? Not that I'm saying you're lying, I've just seen this stated allot lately, and as a Day 1 buyer of the PS3, I can't say this gen is any better or worse in the AAA exclusive category, in the first year. I think all I'm seeing is that MUCH more indie games are showing up, than in the past, which seems to be giving everyone the impression that there are less major exclusives this gen, than last.
I could be wrong, of course, it was awhile ago. But, yeah, have you really looked into the next gen only games launched for PS3/PS4 and compared? Or is this just a perception thing?
CGI-Quality said:
This is my view, as well. None of the next gen consoles tops the other when talking about "amount" of next-gen only games (or current gen - whichever poison you choose). Not that it's a big deal, either. The games will be there. |
heck if you go by time frames(not speaking of any wii u exclusives before november 2013) the best one is mario kart and mario 3d world with infamous and donkey kong tied for second :P
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| OfficerRaichu15 said: bloodbourne,order 66,driveclub?! but its sadly true i mean 1st party is sparse heck both are sparse only 1 first party for both have release this year(infamous, and kinect sports rivals(1 flop and 1 was massive) heck even wii u had barely any exclusives(donkey kong and mario kart) 2014 is pathetic gaming wise so far i didnt include titanfall since it is also on pc/xbox 360 |
Of course those will help but thats my point they aren't out yet.
Same with Xbox One.
Right now on PS4 there are only 4 games you can't get on last gen. Killzone, Infamous, Knack, and UFC. That lineup isn't moving many consoles.
Xbox One games not on last gen. Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, Ryse, and Kinect Sports. That lineup is also not moving hardly any consoles.
Many many people aren't upgrading yet, as there's little point other than better version of 3rd party games. We aren't going to see the sales potential of either system until they actually get games, people want, that they can't get on PS360. Once Assassins Creed Unity, Batman Arkham Knight, Uncharted, Bloodborne, Halo, etc. actually release then these systems will start really selling.
The amount of last gen / current gen ports is higher than the transition period of any console cycle ever.
mornelithe said:
Is that true though Ben? Not that I'm saying you're lying, I've just seen this stated allot lately, and as a Day 1 buyer of the PS3, I can't say this gen is any better or worse in the AAA exclusive category, in the first year. I think all I'm seeing is that MUCH more indie games are showing up, than in the past, which seems to be giving everyone the impression that there are less major exclusives this gen, than last. I could be wrong, of course, it was awhile ago. But, yeah, have you really looked into the next gen only games launched for PS3/PS4 and compared? Or is this just a perception thing? |
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I think people are missing the point of my post, I'm not talking about exclusives at all. I'm talking about games people can't get on PS360. There were at this point already many games that were 3rd party multi plat people couldn't get on the OG Xbox and PS2.
My post is regarding games people HAVE to go out and buy a new console to play, not exclusive titles.
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