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Somebody upping this thread on the next NPD. When we will see that even with a recent price cut... Xbone can't outsold PS4 on his home territory.

The OP will look even more silly.
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Except that Wii used to be sold out for a longer time than PS4.



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WebMasterFlex said:

Somebody upping this thread on the next NPD. When we will see that even with a recent price cut... Xbone can't outsold PS4 on his home territory.

The OP will look even more silly.
See you


Well, if you think that outselling the direct and only competition is enougth, be happy with that.

Eventhought until Sony disclaim their numbers VGChartz is showing a stall in PS4 momentum. A thing that was to be expected (unless you were @ethomaz).



It has to triple it's weekly sales in order to "pull a wii".



gooch_destroyer said:
Yeah....No.

Why you dash my dreams like that? lol jk 



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AIAS said:

PS4 is collecting dust at the mo. PS sure enough was a game changer. PS2 sold due to a gimmick (DVD player). PS3 sold due to a gimmick (BluRay player). Where is the gimmick with the PS4?


This just might be the dumbest thing I ever read.



I hope to God it doesn't pull a Wii. To sell well for maybe 4 years and then drop so incredibly in sales and relevance that no one really cares about it anymore. No, it will be just like a PS console, slowly build momentum and stay relevant even after the next gen starts, selling 100M+ when all is said and done.



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

http://skepdic.com/dvinefal.html

http://www.toolkitforthinking.com/critical-thinking/anatomy-of-an-argument/denial-arguments/argument-from-personal-incredulity

Instead of providing an intelligent argument, it seems you are trying to use this: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

While clearly being in a state of this: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions

And failing to use this: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain

;)

Do you know what an Ad-Hominem fallacy is?

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a general category offallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.[2] Fallacious Ad hominem reasoning is normally categorized as an informal fallacy,[3][4][5] more precisely as a genetic fallacy,[6

I said "citation needed" because your claim is missing evidence. The very fact that I never mentioned you personally at all in my responses to you fails to even qualify as an argument against you. I asked for evidence and you said it was common sense, I rebutted that it was your own common sense and that you're reasoning was unclear.

Furthermore, you are suggesting I have Grandoise Delusions in asking you to back up your claims i.e you're calling me delusion because I asked for evidence, I haven't even disagreed with you yet.

Ironically, you insulted me by suggesting I don't use my brain and if I actually had an argument that would be an Ad Hominem fallacy against me.

Well, COMMON SENSE would dictate that using a piss poor attempt to stealth troll by providing links such as "the toolkit for thinking" would be classified as an ad hominem attack as you did not address the argument but instead provided a link which would basically state that I am somehow ignorantand and in need of learning. 

Anyone with even a modicum of computer hardware/console hardware knowledge would understand that due to Sony & M$ putting out lack luster hardware which is in line with a mid teir computer (at best) that this gen will be shorter than the last. With the current technological progress of PCs, especially in the graphics card department, there will be no choice but to have shorter lifespans as the consoles will be outdated presumably faster than there were this gen. You want refernce? Go look at Nvidia's GPU road map.

Sony and M$ are already making profits whereas they were loosing money with the PS3/360 early on  in the generation.  Going by previous hardware releases (minus last gen) the typical lifespan is 5-6 years. Last gen was a rare occurance that will most likely not happen again.

The genreral consensus out there (which you can look through the majoriy of sites) is that none of the consoles will reach 100 million and at best (being the PS4) will reach near 80 mill. The hype has clearly died out for the PS4 as it's substantially lowere than Wii weekly (2007) sales and has fallen to a level of only being 30K above the PS3 in weekly sales (2007) for the same initial launch period. 

As for the link pertaining to grandoise delusions, well, it was generally based off certain responses and opinions I've you've provided in other threads (Playstaion created the industry).

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Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

http://skepdic.com/dvinefal.html

http://www.toolkitforthinking.com/critical-thinking/anatomy-of-an-argument/denial-arguments/argument-from-personal-incredulity

Instead of providing an intelligent argument, it seems you are trying to use this: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

While clearly being in a state of this: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions

And failing to use this: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain

;)

Do you know what an Ad-Hominem fallacy is?

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a general category offallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.[2] Fallacious Ad hominem reasoning is normally categorized as an informal fallacy,[3][4][5] more precisely as a genetic fallacy,[6

I said "citation needed" because your claim is missing evidence. The very fact that I never mentioned you personally at all in my responses to you fails to even qualify as an argument against you. I asked for evidence and you said it was common sense, I rebutted that it was your own common sense and that you're reasoning was unclear.

Furthermore, you are suggesting I have Grandoise Delusions in asking you to back up your claims i.e you're calling me delusion because I asked for evidence, I haven't even disagreed with you yet.

Ironically, you insulted me by suggesting I don't use my brain and if I actually had an argument that would be an Ad Hominem fallacy against me.

 

Well, COMMON SENSE would dictate that using a piss poor attempt to stealth troll by providing links such as "the toolkit for thinking" would be classified as an ad hominem attack as you did not address the argument but instead provided a link which would basically state that I am somehow ignorantand and in need of learning. 

Except the links I posted address your lack of evidence, not you.

Anyone with even a modicum of computer hardware/console hardware knowledge would understand that due to Sony & M$ putting out lack luster hardware which is in line with a mid teir computer (at best) that this gen will be shorter than the last.

Citation needed.

With the current technological progress of PCs, especially in the graphics card department, there will be no choice but to have shorter lifespans as the consoles will be outdated presumably faster than there were this gen. You want refernce? Go look at Nvidia's GPU road map.

The burden of proof is on you to provide evidence.

Sony and M$ are already making profits whereas they were loosing money with the PS3/360 early on  in the generation.  Going by previous hardware releases (minus last gen) the typical lifespan is 5-6 years. Last gen was a rare occurance that will most likely not happen again.

The genreral consensus out there (which you can look through the majoriy of sites) is that none of the consoles will reach 100 million and at best (being the PS4) will reach near 80 mill.

Whose general consesus is that?

The hype has clearly died out for the PS4 as it's substantially lowere than Wii weekly (2007) sales and has fallen to a level of only being 30K above the PS3 in weekly sales (2007) for the same initial launch period. 

The PS3 had a bad launch but overall sold well enough, to end the generation in a virtual tie with Xbox.

As for the link pertaining to grandoise delusions, well, it was generally based off certain responses and opinions I've you've provided in other threads (Playstaion created the industry).

Seriously, this is the second time you've called me delusional, and I don't see how the thread I posted earlier has any relevance in me requesting evidence from you.

 

I didn't never asked you to explaining your reasoning, only to back up your argument with evidence. 



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btw i don't think That the X-1 and the PS4 are at any risk.