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Raziel123 said:
Euphoria14 said:
What is the cost for early-access? You wouldn't be required to place a fully paid pre-order right?


Why not? You get the whole game, you never have to pay a cent afterwards to get updates

Though the pricing policy varies with developers. Some charge less than release price, others charge more (to act as a "seriousness" gate)

It would be okay if this isn't subjected to digital pre-orders only as I believe you are not able to get refunds on digital purchases, so if you don't like it you are basically screwed anyways.

If this pertains to retail pre-orders too (Early access code on receipt) and/or digital pre-orders can be cancelled for a full refund then I have zero issues with this early-access idea.

 

Basically I have no issues with it and only issues with digital pre-ordering.



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Raziel123 said:


Actually early access would have prevented that because all you had to do was either visit a forum or watch a walkthrough before buying, to know what it was, not what it looked like.


but there was a version that looked like that. They demoed it...



naruball said:
Why is it that people assume that gamers are sheep who can't make decisions on their own? No one is forcing anyone to buy and play early access games. If it's not for your, don't buy it. All you get to do with this is pre-order a game and get to play it when it's not ready yet. While some of us have no interest in it, others do. So let them have this option.

I still don't get this whole "If I don't like, no one can have it" attitude.


When companies release terrible ideas and people support it from the "sheep portion" of gamers we'll call it, it leads to bad things for everyone.  Singleplayer main storyline cut out DLC, on disc DLC, season passes, microtransactions on consoles, Day 1 giant patches, unfinished releases, digital game pricing.  A lot of elements of these shit trends in gaming are results of support from certain corners of videogamers.  If no one supported these ideas, they never would have become forced on the entire gaming industry.



KLXVER said:

Seeing gameplay is not the same as playing it yourself. A game can look great, but not be what you think it is. Atleast you should be able to play it a bit first and then have the option to pay in advance...

Then consumers shouldn't have been so accepting of the loss of demo's.  Again, the industry is merely reacting to what we, the consumers, have shown them is both profitable and acceptable.



mornelithe said:
KLXVER said:

Seeing gameplay is not the same as playing it yourself. A game can look great, but not be what you think it is. Atleast you should be able to play it a bit first and then have the option to pay in advance...

Then consumers shouldn't have been so accepting of the loss of demo's.  Again, the industry is merely reacting to what we, the consumers, have shown them is both profitable and acceptable.


Who was accepting of the loss of demos? There is nothing we can do about that? 



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poklane said:
Please, don't! Games should go on sale when they're finished, not 1 year before that when they're in alpha.


You should buy your games when they are finished, and let other people make the choice not to.

Why force your ideals on others ?

It's good for devs, more budget before hitting deadline. I'm pretty sure it would only concern indie games though.



so question if i dont like the game that i got early access to am i stuck with the game?



Azerth said:
so question if i dont like the game that i got early access to am i stuck with the game?

Yes. It's non-refundable.



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IkePoR said:

That entire argument could, and actually should be completely flipped around.  Why are you blaming a multi-billion dollar company for doing what it exists to do?  Trying to make money.  Isn't it up to the consumer to judge what is and isn't healthy for the industry?  Isn't it the consumer, who, through their wallets, tells developers the direction to go in?  So then, should it not be the consumers fault, when they allow such things to become profitable?  Why would you blame Sony, or Microsoft, or EA, or Activision etc... for doing what they do, and turn a blind eye to the consumer who is encouraging such practices?  Seems like misplaced blame, frankly.

If people don't like the idea, I'm sure Sony will harpoon it before it goes live.  However, given the popularity of the Steam Early Access program, I wouldn't count on it.

Just becaue you're cool with them giving you the finger while they make their money doesn't mean everyone is.  There's ways to make money while still respecting the consumer.  To pretend that the things those companies you named dropped have to do all the slimy things they've done over the years is not true.

Where in my statement did I say I'm cool with them giving me the finger?  *chuckle* See, they don't give me the finger, because I don't buy shit games.  $60 pays for allot of gas to get me to places I need to go, or allot of fishing equipment, or etc...  The days where I just throw $60 at an unknown quantity are long, long over.

Bolded:  That's not their problem, until we make it their problem.  If everyone jumps on the train, they assume it's been accepted, and run with it.  The fault rests with the consumer, not the company.

Italics: I never said they have to do them, I simply said the consumers allowed it to occur.  Again, the consumers are responsible for this.  Companies exist to make money, consumers have to keep them in check...and when they don't, the industry assumes it's accepted and then moves on to the next new revenue stream.



Azerth said:
so question if i dont like the game that i got early access to am i stuck with the game?


Seems like it...