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Forums - Nintendo - UPDATED!!! MORE RUMORS: Retro Working on Diddy Kong Racing 2 (Wii U)

 

Do you like this idea?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 339 36.93%
 
No... Retro should do something else 281 30.61%
 
Only if they can do it an... 261 28.43%
 
dat fur... 35 3.81%
 
Total:916

This seems a bit weird. DKR was basically Rare Racer. Why dig up this old franchise when they have Mario Kart? I like the idea of a game with lesser known Nintendo characters, but another Kart game seems unnecessary.



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curl-6 said:

Different time, different expectations. This isn't the 1990s, one cartoon kart racer is enough. People want something more ambitious from their new HD console.


The time has nothing to do with it. People wanted ambitious games even more back then. It was the dawn of 3D. Expectations were through the roof. One kart racer doesn't have to be enough. There is absolutely room for two kart racers. That's like saying there's no room for two fighting games. People want something "more ambitious."



spemanig said:
curl-6 said:

Different time, different expectations. This isn't the 1990s, one cartoon kart racer is enough. People want something more ambitious from their new HD console.


The time has nothing to do with it. People wanted ambitious games even more back then. It was the dawn of 3D. Expectations were through the roof. One kart racer doesn't have to be enough. There is absolutely room for two kart racers. That's like saying there's no room for two fighting games. People want something "more ambitious."

3D was new back then, so even a Kart racer could be ambitious. But times have changed. Unless it's Mario Kart, gamers don't care about Kart racers any more.

DKR2 would be a flop just like Tropical Freeze. It's a game only a small minority of nostalgic fans want. The average gamer will sneer at it.



DKR2 is a dumb decision for now. Mario Kart 8 is fresh in everyone's mind. It would be like EA releasing 2 NFL games to compete against each other.

Taking away from Retro in any way shape or form just means less manpower for the Metroid game in the eyes of everyone that wants it instead.



curl-6 said:

3D was new back then, so even a Kart racer could be ambitious. But times have changed. Unless it's Mario Kart, gamers don't care about Kart racers any more.

DKR2 would be a flop just like Tropical Freeze. It's a game only a small minority of nostalgic fans want. The average gamer will sneer at it.


True. It also seems like a waste of Retros talent. They should be making big new AAA IPs. I dont think Nintendo are using them to their full potential. 

They are pretty much Nintendos Naughty Dog. They should let Retro make something new and exciting. Not waste their time with another Kart racer...



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KLXVER said:

True. It also seems like a waste of Retros talent. They should be making big new AAA IPs. I dont think Nintendo are using them to their full potential. 

They are pretty much Nintendos Naughty Dog. They should let Retro make something new and exciting. Not waste their time with another Kart racer...

Exactly.

Retro's strength is that they can make the kind of games other Nintendo studios cannot, like the Metroid Prime trilogy. Nintendo need to leverage this to diversify their library, not churn out more and more of the same kind of games.



curl-6 said:

3D was new back then, so even a Kart racer could be ambitious. But times have changed. Unless it's Mario Kart, gamers don't care about Kart racers any more.

DKR2 would be a flop just like Tropical Freeze. It's a game only a small minority of nostalgic fans want. The average gamer will sneer at it.


No it wouldn't. Tropical Freeze flopped because it was too expensive and on the wrong platform. It would have flourished on the 3DS for $25. DKR2 would be a perfect game on the perfect platform for the perfect price. It has the brand power to sell very well, it would have a big first party marketing push, and it's a game that actually makes sense on a home console. It's ignorant to think that someone who liked Mario Kart 8 would just scoff at the idea that there may be another game like it that could also be fun to play.

"I don't need another shooter. I already have COD. I don't need another sidescroller. I already have SMB. I don't need another JRPG. I already have Final Fantasy. Fuck everything else. I only need to love one game in every genre to be satisfied."

It's stupid to think that anyone thinks that way. If you like something, and something else comes out that's similar and good, you'll buy it. If I like COD, and I see Battlefield looks fun, I'm getting Battlefield. If I like SMB, and I think DKC looks good, I'm getting DKC. If I like Final Fantasy, and I think Crono Trigger looks good, I'm getting Crono Trigger.

It has nothing to do with nostalgia. There's enough room for two first party kart racers on one platform. Mario Kart 8 will be one of the best selling games on the Wii U and is on the back of Mario Kart Wii, which you know sold to 35m+ people. You seriously think that Nintendo releasing ANOTHER game off the back of a reputation like that would garner anything less than excitement? Doesn't make sense. Will is do as well as MK8 or Smash 4? Obviously not. Will it do as well as WWHD or even NSLU? More than likely.

EDIT: I won't even start on how close-minded it is to think that a kart racer can't be developed to create a AAA experience, especially in the recent wake of MK8.



The game wont do anything for the WiiU though. People wont buy a WiiU for DKR if they didnt buy it for MK.
The WiiU has MK8, Sonic Racing Transformed and F1 Race Stars already.



spemanig said:
curl-6 said:

3D was new back then, so even a Kart racer could be ambitious. But times have changed. Unless it's Mario Kart, gamers don't care about Kart racers any more.

DKR2 would be a flop just like Tropical Freeze. It's a game only a small minority of nostalgic fans want. The average gamer will sneer at it.


No it wouldn't. Tropical Freeze flopped because it was too expensive and on the wrong platform. It would have flourished on the 3DS for $25. DKR2 would be a perfect game on the perfect platform for the perfect price. It has the brand power to sell very well, it would have a big first party marketing push, and it's a game that actually makes sense on a home console. It's ignorant to think that someone who liked Mario Kart 8 would just scoff at the idea that there may be another game like it that could also be fun to play.

"I don't need another shooter. I already have COD. I don't need another sidescroller. I already have SMB. I don't need another JRPG. I already have Final Fantasy. Fuck everything else. I only need to love one game in every genre to be satisfied."

It's stupid to think that anyone thinks that way. If you like something, and something else comes out that's similar and good, you'll buy it. If I like COD, and I see Battlefield looks fun, I'm getting Battlefield. If I like SMB, and I think DKC looks good, I'm getting DKC. If I like Final Fantasy, and I think Crono Trigger looks good, I'm getting Crono Trigger.

It has nothing to do with nostalgia. There's enough room for two first party kart racers on one platform. Mario Kart 8 will be one of the best selling games on the Wii U and is on the back of Mario Kart Wii, which you know sold to 35m+ people. You seriously think that Nintendo releasing ANOTHER game off the back of a reputation like that would garner anything less than excitement? Doesn't make sense. Will is do as well as MK8 or Smash 4? Obviously not. Will it do as well as WWHD or even NSLU? More than likely.

EDIT: I won't even start on how close-minded it is to think that a kart racer can't be developed to create a AAA experience, especially in the recent wake of MK8.

If DKR2 by Retro is announced, it will be a laughing stock among all but the most loyal Nintendo gamers and N64 nostalgics. It will be rightly decried as a waste of Retro's talents, as yet more proof that Nintendo is living in the past, as a hallmark of Nintendo's failure to diversify their software output beyond the same play-it-safe genres. It will fail to move systems. It will further diminish Retro's reputation.

Nintendo has to prioritze actual system sellers, or they will perish.



I highly doubt NoA biggest project would be a kart racer. It would also be pointless to make another kart racer with MK8 out int the market. Even if DKR2 ends up being vastly superior to MK8, most people will choose MK8 because it is more popular and most people would be able to recognize the characters in MK8.

This rumor sound like a load of BS to me.