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Forums - Nintendo - Suda 51 has “no plans” to develop for Nintendo systems- After all the Sales we gave you on the Wii!!!!!!

oniyide on 25 June 2014
TRAVIS!!! said:
oniyide said:
SanAndreasX said:
oniyide said:
lets be real those NMH games didnt exactly set the charts on fire, especially after you consider that alot of those sales came from bargain bin. And after the sales of the sequel i dont blame him for not doing another.


NMH outsold everything else Suda did, except for Lollipop Chainsaw. And that game only sold as well as it did because WB gave it a good-sized marketing push. Shadows of the Damned failed right out of the gate despite being on both PS3 and 360 and being published by EA, although EA didn't give a shit about it.

His games are interesting, but they're not big sellers regardless of platform. The PS4 and/or Xbox One aren't going to change that.

Yeah so? Either the games are cheaply made so they dont need to sell much for him to continue, or maybe his games just dont sell and he's need to hang it up. Ill go with the former...for now. NMH being one of his top sellers doesnt make my initial statement wrong. And please, NMH got a good marketing push when it came out, lots of hype because it was a core Wii exclusive. and it still barely managed to go over 50k after years on the market with an install base of about 100mil. Those arent good sales no matter how you wanna spin it. 

Why do people keep bringin up PS4/One? I didnt say anything about it. He probably doesnt think his games will sell on Wii U, someone thinks that, which is why none are coming.


NMH must have made profit, otherwise he wouldn't have made a second one and that's really all that matters, isn't it?

EDIT: doesn't mean I blame him for switching consoles.

maybe they did maybe they didnt. BUT the sequel most likely didnt since we never saw a 3 and we probably wont see one. Your only as good as the last game.



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oniyide on 25 June 2014
Blob said:
EdHieron said:
Blob said:

Erm have you played No more Heroes with traditional controls? Definately better suited to the wiimote/move controls. I know this because No more heroes had a ps3 release that didn't sell as well as the wii version, so I doubt a release on PS4 would sell much better.

 

It also had very little marketing and very little hype.  The Wii was for gamers that like whatever Wii games are.  But Playstation gamers are open to new hardcore experiences and innovative game titles that like to push the bleeding edge as far as mature ideas, etc. are concerned i. e. exactly the type of game Suda 51 makes.  With some marketing push and ads on PSN No More Heroes Collection Remastered on PS4 would easily sell better than it did on Wii ( especially if it was promised that Part 3 was going to be a Playstation exclusive ).

Of course playstation gamers are, thats why all of Suda 51s games sold so well on PS3. The dirty wii casuals who liked "whatever wii games are" had no interest in NMH whatsoever despite it selling 500k, roughly the same as lollipop chainsaw did on PS3.  


its actually more impressive when one considers LC did better than NMH not by much on JUST PS3 which came out later, more expensive and to a smaller install base.



Ryudo on 25 June 2014
Wright said:
spurgeonryan said:
Wright said:

But the first No More Heroes wasn't exclusive!


It wasn't ? What other system was it on?


360 and Ps3 xD


It sold best on Wii. Also NMH2 was Wii only



tiffac on 25 June 2014

Does this mean any hope of seeing NMH3 in the future is dead in the water? :(



Gnac on 25 June 2014

Punk is Dead.



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Gnac on 26 June 2014
Shadow1980 said:

Ugh. I wasn't even aware of this until just now. I mean, really? Lily Bergamo looked interesting, but this new thing that's replacing it... just, bleh. More dark, gritty, generic-looking ultraviolence. We went from a samurai girl fighting some giant robot samurai, to yet another game with burly macho men tearing each other apart in gruesome ways.

Overpromising and underdelivering is not a new thing for Grasshopper Manufacture, even if the end result is still subversive.



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Blob on 26 June 2014
oniyide said:
Blob said:

Of course playstation gamers are, thats why all of Suda 51s games sold so well on PS3. The dirty wii casuals who liked "whatever wii games are" had no interest in NMH whatsoever despite it selling 500k, roughly the same as lollipop chainsaw did on PS3.  


its actually more impressive when one considers LC did better than NMH not by much on JUST PS3 which came out later, more expensive and to a smaller install base.


Probably is, granted NMH came out pretty early in the wiis lifecycle so the install base wasn't that huge either. Truthfully I don't really care which sold better as they both didnt do overly well in the grand scheme of things. Just dont like the generalisations and arrogance he was throwing about lol



TRAVIS!!! on 26 June 2014
oniyide said:
TRAVIS!!! said:


NMH must have made profit, otherwise he wouldn't have made a second one and that's really all that matters, isn't it?

EDIT: doesn't mean I blame him for switching consoles.

maybe they did maybe they didnt. BUT the sequel most likely didnt since we never saw a 3 and we probably wont see one. Your only as good as the last game.

I think grasshopper always work with a very limited budget and don't spend a lot of time developing their games ( SotD, LC and KiD all came out about a year after the preious game) which is on one hand bad because I think all of these games could've needed more polish but that may also mean that grasshopper never have to sell that many copies to at least break even. 

But I believe the fact that his new game is free to play shows that Killer is Dead wasn't successful and that he can't continue the way he used to work.



Aerys on 26 June 2014

No More Heroes was a one shot, but Suda51 is dead.

Sad.


I remember when they were talking about No More Heroes 3, but now it's obvious it will never happen, it's like Square Enix



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Wright on 26 June 2014
Aerys said:
No More Heroes was a one shot, but Suda51 is dead.


Dead?