I never understand it. All you guys are counting this by install base now. Then can we include Tie Ratios? Why did 360 sell more software if 15 million more people has a PS3? Should we determine who takes 2nd by profit?

They counted as units sold when they were sold back in 2006 and any of those systems which died after 2009 were no longer covered by even the extended warrenty so people had to go out and buy another Xbox to continue playing and enjoying their 360s. There is no way these multiple purchases via RRoD are not counted from actual sales of consoles.

Heck you can work this out for yourself in about 5 mins on the front page with any multiplatform game,

Ps3 watchdogs has .62m sold

X360 version has .53

GTA5 on the Ps3 has 17.47m

xbox360 has13.88m

and even with that, the Ps3 had GTA5 on psn from Day1 with loads of copies being sold digitally while there was a shortage of physical units after launch but the Xbox360 didn't have it as a Games on Demand game for some time after launch since there was issues with having the full game on the HDD. If you see those sort of number differences between multiplatform games then it should be very clear that there is a massive difference in the number of consoles which are sitting infront of TVs selling software or in a landfill somewhere doing nothing but buffering a number for the past 5 years.

Can you please clarify the word "officially" for me? (one hint: VGChartz numbers are not officials in any ways)

So 360 managed to hold off PS3 until the next gen. 2nd place in the spotlight, 3rd place after next gen officially begins. I can live with that.

So 360 was so awesome people bought it multiple times over a fully functioning PS3. Thanks for strengthing Xbox's sales milestones :)

Its still on but most people don't care anymore. Lots of people view the gen as it is in the spotlight. Meaning while the gen was at the forefront of gaming.

In the 7th gen race, PS3 took 2nd after the audience left the stadium essentially. I for one am really impressed 360 lasted that long.

Except that is making an unfair industry fair, which alters reality. This is an industry where head starts count and aligned launches are only done by the losing fan faction to save face. WiiU got a head start and reaped that year of sales benefits. Now X1 has its work cut out for it to take 2nd. There is no compensation system in the industry. You have to make your own way, there is no unified start date.

That's dumb and you know it. Nobody owns a collection of games, then completely disregards them if their system breaks i.e. 360 breaks, therefore buy a PS3. Because a PS3 could totally play all your 360 games. When my PS3 phat broke, I could have easily switched to 360. But then I'd have to buy my games over again and I wouldn't have my saves. It's illogical.

"Oh, so you bought another PS3. So its userbase is padded too then". Difference being, 360s were breaking left and right. PS3s...almost not at all.

Nice spin, though

People sell their libraries to Gamestop all the time. But in many cases people bought another 360. It is a testament to its desirability.

By games over again.....if you beat them there is no point in rebuying them.....to display in your house for people to see? You sell your games, buy the competition, and buy games that release in the future you want to play. Dissecting peoples buying habits cna go on forever. Point being you are spinning this yourself to diminish 360's impressive milestones.

You're right. People do sell their games. When they're done. But unless you only buy one game at a time, and you don't buy another game until your first game is played to completion, then you have multiple games that you're still playing. They aren't on display. At least, that's how normal people are. And if you have multiple games you're still playing, why just give that all up?

Most of my games I have right now are from 2012, onward. I have not finished all of them. Uncharted 1, Bioshock, Final Fantasy, GOW3, etc. beat them and sold them. They're old news. But Borderlands 2, GT6, TLOU, Lightning Returns, etc.? I'm still playing those. So if my PS3 broke, why would I just up and sell them and get a 360, then have to either rebuy those games (that aren't exclusive) or buy other games? Why would I disregard my library that I'm still playing?

Are you trying to say that people, at any given moment, only have either A.  old, disposable games that they've beaten or B. 1-2 games so that if they get different systems, they aren't missing out on a whole bunch? Because you're making it seem like if a console breaks, you effectively weren't using it anyway, so you can just switch.

No, people rebuy a console, if it breaks, so they can play the games they own. It's dumb to throw away what you're using. I didn't rebuy my PS3 because Kingdom Hearts HD was coming out 3 months later (which is a game I wanted and currently own). I rebought my PS3 because I was still playing Arkham City, TLOU, Borderlands 1 GOTY, GOW: Ascension and I wasn't just going to drop everything, get rid of those games, and switch. Normal people don't do something as silly as that.

It is a fact that people bought multiple 360s due to RROD. Not because some game in the future was coming out. Because they had a library of games they were playing, and they wanted to play them. PS3 or Wii can't play 360 discs. Do you really believe that at any moment all of a person's games are beaten, so they could just sell them? Because that's what you're getting at and that's delusional. If that fact is "diminishing the 360s impressive milestones" then so be it. You don't like facts, then too bad.

I believe you said that you don't have an Xbox One yet, but I'm sure you have a 360. Are you still using it? If it broke right now, would you get a PS3 instead of getting another 360? Every game you own right now is clearly beaten and is just on display, so you could just sell them since you've beaten every single one, right? At least, that's the picture you've painted. That people have no library, at any moment, because they've beaten all their games and sold them, so they'd rebuy a console if it broke due to future games. No way are they currently playing any games. That'd be preposterous